8th Bn Seaforths War Diaries

[RFC01]

Whilst trying to find out more about a great great Uncle, I cam across some of the 8ths war diaries,

Please take a look at this post about some of the War Diaries of the 8th Seaforths.

I would like to know more about some of the places mentioned:

IE. Tank Trench, MARLIERE CAVE, LA BERGERE – MARLIERE Road.

Where are these places? Ive tried to find them, i can't. Tried to find Tank Trench on a trench map, can't.

I get an idea of where this action took place (IE around Guemappe, but would like to try and get a better idea if possible.

Anyone here help out? I would be very grateful if there are more 8th Seaforth Diaries available online also.

Many thanks

 

 

Edited 19 December , 2016 by RFC01

[Guest]

Hi RFC01

 

Tank Trench was roughly on the line of the D33 west of Guemappe. The la Bergere - Marliere Road is the D33 (Monchy-le-Preux- Wancourt) and ran from the crossroads of the D33-D939 (Arras-Cambrai Road) at la Bergere, south of Monchy-le-Preux to la Marliere, north of Wancourt.

 

Tank Cemetery, named after Tank Trench, is about 700 metres north-west of Guemappe village near the west side of the D33, Monchy-le-Preux to Wancourt road. Row F, against the wall of the cemetery is a mass grave in which 64 men of the 7th Cameron Highlanders are buried with touching side-by-side headstones.

 

Dilham

[Guest]

Hi RFC01

 

ps See IGN Serie Bleue (1:25000) - 2506O (Rouvroy, Vitry-en-Artois) for la Bergere and 2406E (Arras) for la Marliere

 

Dilham

[RFC01]

Hi Dilham,

Thanks very much for that information. Is there a trench map that exists of the area as it was at the time of the excert of the war diaries that are written? http://wishart1418.org/8th-battn-seaforth-highlanders-war-diary-april-1917/

Actually i found this was very helpful for Trench Maps, and could see Marliere on it:

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2014%2F07%2F01%2Farticle-2676663-1F4DD40100000578-769_964x378.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fsciencetech%2Farticle-2676663%2FGoogle-WWI-View-Explore-First-World-War-trenches-watch-Western-Front-evolve-Germans-Allies-forged-attacks.html&h=378&w=964&tbnid=b_ytb9Ab-T7qtM%3A&vet=1&docid=QrjWg92kRZoNBM&ei=CONXWIbFEcmsU_z2u7gP&tbm=isch&client=safari&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=630&page=0&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=0ahUKEwiG6fTfsIDRAhVJ1hQKHXz7DvcQMwgbKAEwAQ&bih=1015&biw=1262

Do you know anything of MARLIERE CAVE?

I did find this which was interesting:

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/interactive/arras-tunnels-map

Ive just started reading about Arras, so should it now be obvious that this actually was a cave that would have been part of the vast tunnel/cave system under Arras? I guess I'm trying to find out if Marliere Cave still exists:)

Edited 20 December , 2016 by RFC01

[RFC01]

I find nothing about a cave at Marliere. Its mentioned a lot in the war diaries.