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4thGordons

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I recently purchased about 50 glass plate "magic lantern" slides which appear to be all medals ranging from the 1860s to 1920s. They are mostly (it seems to my uneducated eye) American (including a number of obscure campaign medals and state issued commemorative medals) but there are certainly some non US medals amongst them. I have no detail on provenance and there are no manufacturers marks on the slides. It seems possible these are photographs of someone's (or an institution's) collection.

 

The images are very clear and even when reproduced digitally and reduced in resolution to post here are of decent quality. A random sample from the top of the stack are included below.

As well as seeking to identify the medals one thought occurs, I do not know if glass plate images were orthochromatic or panchromatic, but if the former this collection might provide a useful reference to how the medal ribbon colours are rendered - something which several of us have wrestled with for some time.

 

any suggestions as to the identification of the medals below would be appreciated:

 

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Distinguished Flying Cross

I assume the next two are commemorative medals

 

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German medallion (for sinking the Lusitania?)

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Lusitania Medal

 

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             US Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal (pre 1935)

Possibly a local US "peace medal"

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A New Jersey National Guard Medal (period?)

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Mexican Service Campaign Medal

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Silver Star?                                                                                    Distinguished Service Medal

 

This last one (Distinguished Service Medal) suggests the film may be orthochromatic as the the ribbon colours are (I believe) red outside with thin blue inside then thick white. The blue appears very difficult to see here.

 

Chris

 

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Image twelve 

1918 Distinguished Service Medal

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The Army Distinguished Service Medal Designed by Captain Aymar Embury, the designer of the Distinguished Service Cross, this medal was confirmed by an Act of Congress dated July 9, 1918. It was awarded to persons who distinguished themselves by "exceptionally meritorious service to the government in a duty of great responsibility" after April 6, 1917, in a combat or noncombat role. The first awards of this medal for service in World War I were to the commanders of the Allied armies. At the direction of the President of the United States, the medal was conferred upon Marshals Foch and Joffre and General Petain of France, Field Marshal Haig of Great Britain, General Diaz of Italy, and General Gillian of Belgium. It was also awarded to US General John J. Pershing "as a token of gratitude of the American people to the commander of our armies in the field for his distinguished service.

 

Regards Ray

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Very nice pictures. Excellent quality and a significant resource especially as you say  with regard to ortho- and panchromatic colour rendition.

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Image number eleven

Silver Star Medal

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By act of the US Congress on July 9th 1918, the Silver Star Medal was instituted as "Citation Star". The decoration then was not more than a small silver star that could be worn on the ribbon of any campaign decoration. The Congress decided in 1932 that a star could be awarded for actions dating back to the Spanish-American war in 1898. The decoration was then given a new name as Silver Star Medal and was newly designed. The original "Citation Star" was placed in the middle of the new design. The designer of the new Silver Star Medal was Rudolf Freund of "Bailey, Banks and Biddle".
On August 7th, 1942, the American Congress decided that the Silver Star Medal also could be given to civilians.
The decoration comes in the form of a gold coloured star, with in the central part a laurel wreath. In the middle of this one can find the smaller Silver Star from the "Citation Star". On the reverse, the medal bears the words "FOR GALLANTRY IN ACTION".
The first real Silver Star Medal was awarded to General Douglas Mac Arthur in August 1932. He received it with six times the Oak Leaves, which means he received the Silver Star Medal seven times at once.

 

Regards Ray

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Image two

The China Relief Expedition Medal

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The China Relief Expedition Medal was a decoration of the United States military which was issued to members of both the United States Navy and the United States Marines for service in the China Relief Expedition between 1900 and 1901 during the Boxer Rebellion. The medal was authorized by General Orders of the Department of the Navy on June 27, 1908 . General Order 81 established the medal authorized for Naval personnel while General Order 82 authorized the medal for the Marine Corps

Regards Ray

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Image ten

New Jersey National Guard Medal WW1 era

 

no details found photo following showing ribbon colours 

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regards Ray

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Image 4

An early American Legion medal  (of which there were many variations)

 

Photo showing Medal ribbon colours

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regards Ray

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Thanks very much RaySearching!

The China Relief medal seems to throw a bit of a spanner in the works as far as orthochromatic film goes as cetirus paribus one would expect the ribbon to show dark if yellow! The "silver star" medal does seem to  show red as dark in center....and the blue outside it as lighter which would be consistent with orthochromatic rendering (which is odd because if the medal itself was not instituted until 1932 then the images must pre-date then, when one would expect them to be panchromatic --- :blink: )

 

Edit: if the American Legion medal ribbon remained consistent that too looks like panchromatic rendering to me? :wacko:

 

I will digitize more tonight and see if I can post them in a more systematic fashion.

Chris

 

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Slide 3 - Chateau Thierry - Unofficial French medal

 

Sorry this is a dealers site, but it's sold anyway...........

 

http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?products_id=4988

 

Mike

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Thanks everyone. I am intrigued as to the source of the images.

Here are some more -- some I recognize and some appear self evident from what is on the medal -- others I am not sure of.

 

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                                                                                     Victoria Cross (UK)

 

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                                                                                   Medal of Honor

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Well, I don't "do" American stuff - though at least one of them (35) is an Austrian "something or other", but the obvious ones (VC and MC aside) are...........

15. Belgian Croix de Guerre

28. French Verdun (Unofficial)

36. Belgian War Medal

45. French Legion d'Honneur

46. French Victory Medal

47. French War Medal

49. French Croix de Geurre avec Palm - and I think its a copy. I don't think the sword hilts should touch the arms of the cross.

 

Mike

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Oh, and 41 seems to be a USA State of Pennsylvania National Guard Medal for WW1

 

Mike

 

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Number 40 is the (British) Military Cross. The cypher in the middle of the Cross will tell you which monarch awarded it, and so give a hint to the date of the award.

 

aim

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6 minutes ago, aim said:

Number 40 is the (British) Military Cross. The cypher in the middle of the Cross will tell you which monarch awarded it, and so give a hint to the date of the award.

 

aim

 

I think that one is a copy too. The suspension looks wrong. The loop attached to the bar should be "D" shaped, not round.

Mike

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7 minutes ago, Medaler said:

 

I think that one is a copy too. The suspension looks wrong.

Mike

 

Intrigued by this suggestion as the images appear to date from the 1930s at the latest. Here is an attempted close up of the centre and the suspension on the MC.

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Last lot:

 

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There are also half a dozen slides of various pins, brooches and badges from the same period - and a nice array of Divisional patches

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Any thoughts on the source of these images? They are all on 4"x4.25" glass "magic lantern" slides for projection, appear professionally taken given clarity and exposure. They are unmarked save a small white sticker in the top corner to show which way round they should go and came in a nicely made wooden  Kodak Eastman No2A Lantern Slide Box.

 

Chris

 

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