German Prisoners of war buried in Kirkdale Cemetery 1916

[kathleen donaldson]

In 1916 10 German Soldiers where buried in Kirkdale Cemetery. Despite extensive research in the Liverpool Burial Board Committee minutes I have not found any entry of these Soldier's being exhumed and repatriated back to Germany.

 

In minutes dated 17th May 1923 I have the following record:-

 

Kirkdale Cemetery

Referring to the resolution of the Committee of the 15th March last that the exclusive right of burial in the graves of deceased German combatant prisoners of war be granted to the Imperial War Graves Commission, the Town Clerk now submits Deed of Grant and requests authority to seal same.

Resolved That:- The Deed of Grant now submitted be approved sealed and stamped.

 

According to the historical history of the Cemetery these German Soldiers were removed.

 

Historical Information

This cemetery also contains nine war graves of other nationalities. Originally, there were many more, including American anregisterd German from the First World War and Belgian from both wars, but these were later removed to other national cemeteries in the United Kingdom or repatriated to their home country.

 

There is no record in the Burial register stating what date this occurred. 

The Soldier's names are:-

 

Date of Burial: 26^th July 1916

Name: J. Legh/Leyh

Age:?

German Prisoner

Number 319, 122^nd Reserve infantry

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried: Reserved Public Grave Church of England

Section: 9

Grave Number: 197

 

Unable to locate death registration.

Date of Burial: 28^th July 1916

Name: Gabriel Hansinger

Age: 21 years

German Prisoner

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton

Buried: Public Grave Roman Catholic Section

Section: 2

Grave number: 1357G

Death Registered September quarter 1916:

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Honsinger	Gabriel	21	W. Derby	8b	575

Date of burial: 29^th July 1916

Name: Male (August) Kusseron

Age: 35 years

Number: 735 FR 26

Rank: Private

German prisoner

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton

Buried: Public Grave Church of England Section

Section: 9

Grave number 197

Death Registered

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Kusseron	Male	35	W.Derby	8b	576

 

 

Date of burial: 29^th July 1916

Name: Male Ulmer

Age: 20 years

German Prisoner

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried: Public Grave Church of England section

Section 9

Grave number: 197

Death registered

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Ulmer	Male	20	W.Derby	8b	576

 

 

 

Date of Burial: 2^nd August 1916

Name: J. Frank

Aged: 20 years

German Prisoner

Number: 336, 122nd Reserve Infantry

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried: Public Grave Church of England

Section: 9

Grave number: 197

Death Registered

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Frank	Male	21	W. Derby	8b	578

 

 

Date of Burial: 10^th August 1916

Name: Wilhelm Hulsmmeir

Age: 20 years

German Prisoner:

Place of death: Mill Road Military Hospital.

Buried Public Grave Church of England

Section: 9

Grave number: 246

Death Registered.

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Hulsmeir	Wilhelm	20	W.Derby	8b	579

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Date of burial: 10^th August 1916

Name: Coker Schnieder

Age: 38

German Prisoner

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried Public Grave Church of England

Section: 9

Grave number: 246

Death Registered

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Schneider	Oscar	38	W.Derby	8b	580

 

 

Date of burial: 10^th August 1916

Name: Karl Schaafe

Age: 22 years

German Prisoner

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton

Buried Public grave Church of England

Section: 9

Grave number: 197

Death Registered:

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Schaafe	Karl	22	W.Derby	8b	580

 

 

 

Date of Burial: 19^th August 1916

Name: Robert Robrecht

German Prisoner

Age: 20 years

German Prisoner

Number: 1843 GF?

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried Public grave Roman Catholic Section

Section: 2

Grave number: 246

Death Registered:

Deaths Sep 1916
Robrecht	Robert	20	W.Derby	8b	583

 

 

Date of Burial: 22^nd August 1916

Name: Fredrich Wals

Age: 37 years

German Prisoner

Germany 122 Reserve Infantry

Place of death: Venice Street Military Hospital, Everton.

Buried Public Grave Church of England Section.

Section: 9

Grave number: 246

Death registered:

Deaths Sep 1916   (>99%)
Walz	Frederick	37	W.Derby	8b	584

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In the original register for the Imperial War Graves Commission published 1927 the above are recorded as still being in this Cemetery. The Burial Committee minutes finish 1936 and there is no recorded of Repatriation of these soldiers.

 

I haven't a clue how to search for the above on a German War Graves site and I was advised that we have a member on here who can help.

Edited 23 November , 2016 by kathleen donaldson

[Stephen Nulty]

Hi Kathy

 

https://www.volksbund.de/en/volksbund.html

 

 

[kathleen donaldson]

Thanks Steve

[Frank_East]

It's possible that these German dead were transferred to the dedicated German military cemetery at Cannock,Staffordshire which opened in 1966...not all German dead were transferred and some still lie in British civilian cemeteries.

 

 

[kathleen donaldson]

Just a update.

 

Johann Leyh reburied in Cannock Chase.

Gabriel Hansinger-Not recorded

August Kusseron-Not recorded

Eugen Ulmer reburied in Cannock Chase

Julius Gustav Frank reburied in Cannock Chase

Wilhelm Hulsmeier reburied in Cannock Chase

Clement Oskar Schneider reburied Cannock Chase

Karl Schaaf Reburied Cannock Chase

Robert Robrecht- His entry states his grave location was not found, so he is still possibly at Kirkdale.

Fredrich Walz reburied in Cannock Chase.

 

Thanks for all replies. I will get in touch with Liverpool Cemteries Office and confirm if the 2 soldiers buried in Grave 1357G in the R/C section are still there.

 

 

[GraemeClarke]

Hi

 

Kusserow is in Cannock Block 13, Grave 113 dated 26 July 1916

 

Graeme

[kathleen donaldson]

Thanks Graham. There are only the 2 Soldiers buried in the Roman Catholic section unaccounted for. I'll take a trip out to Kirkdale and see what is there.

[Fattyowls]

Kath, great work. Keep us posted how you get on.

Pete.

[TTracer44]

The Cannock Chase site is well worth a visit, if you are in the area, we came open it by chance while walking in the Chase.

Den

[davidbohl]

I think this clip from the Liverpool Echo 15th Mar 1923 from the British Newspaper Archive is probably the source of this thread.

I wonder if Gabriel Hansinger and Robert Robrecht are still unaccounted for ?

Dave

 

[charlie2]

Gabriel Hansinger is not his correct name, he was Uffz. Markus Hausinger, Bavarian 16. Infanterie Regiment. Neither the Volksbund nor the CWGC record where he is buried. The Volksbund does however state that he was unable to be re-intered elsewhere.

 https://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/detailansicht.html?tx_igverlustsuche_pi2[gid]=6dc5480a9789a52398faa2aa2f348fa6&cHash=3fa7d6f9dd879e8063b9bc1fa9ec64bd
 

Charlie

Edited 7 December , 2019 by charlie2

[charlie2]

The same applies for Robert Robrecht of the Garde Füsilier Regt. As they were both not reburied elsewhere, one must presume their graves were not found and they are still buried at Kirkdale.

https://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/detailansicht.html?tx_igverlustsuche_pi2[gid]=354c0d62ef9bc7cb4af9bb82c3864497&cHash=535457414a9b5a8ed7809d2f96182315

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Zoom/D/05/01/C_G1_D_05_01_0213/C_G1_D_05_01_0213_0062.JPG/4

Charlie

 

[davidbohl]

Thanks Charlie, I'll have a walk around the R2 section just to see what is left.

Dave

 

Map from L'pool City Council website

[charlie962]

dupl

Edited 8 December , 2019 by charlie962

[angelab]

All those deaths, within a month, and mostly in the same hospital...  was there some kind of epidemic raging?