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I am currently involved in researching all the names on our war memorial for a book and a website.

The village is Trefonen in Shropshire and there is 31 names on it. I have attached them. If anyone has any information regarding any of them i would be most grateful if they would contact me. I have gone through the usual channels like war record searches etc but any information would be most welcome and any contact with family members would be most welcome.

Trefonen War Memorial List 1.pdf

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Here's the list contained in the PDF attachment.  It's a bit easier to use it posted into the topic.  The names that are hyperlinks already have some research, which you can reach via the link.

 

  Name Regiment Memorial/Burial Death Date Age
1 John Samuel Burrows 7th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Thiepval Memorial   18/08/1916 26
2 Francis Henry Carsley 8th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Doiran Memorial   18/09/1918 25
3 Thomas Carsley 8th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Trefonen Church   13/02/1919 39
4 Daniel Considine 2nd Btn, South Lancashire Regiment Lochre No 10 Cemetery 23/08/1918 24
5 Richard Davies 5th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Boulogne Eastern Cemetery  25/01/1916 19
6 Edward E Dyke Royal Air Force Trefonen Church   12/04/1919 33
7 George Edward Dyke 2nd Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Mikra British Cemetery  05/10/1918 42
8 Thomas Dyke 7th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Mendingham Cemetery   27/09/1917 27
9 William Dyke 2nd Btn, Rifle Brigade Berry-au-Bac Cemetery   28/05/1918 23
10 Thomas John Ellis 2nd Btn, Royal Welsh Fusiliers Bray Military Cemetery  22/02/1917 24
11 Alfred Francis 25th Btn, Montgomeryshire & Welsh Horse Yeomanry Don Communal Cemetery  05/11/1918 26
12 Alfred Griffiths 6th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Llanyblodwel Church   05/09/1916 33
13 Charles Henry Hughes 14th Btn, Welsh Regiment Morval British Cemetery  30/08/1918 22
14 George Hughes 7th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Anneux British Cemetery  12/08/1917 23
15 Gladys Corfield Hughes Staff Nurse, (QUAIIMS) Nantmawr Cemetery   06/11/1918 29
16 Thomas Henry Hughes 5th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Thiepval Memorial   16/09/1916 20
17 Charley Edward Jones 14th Btn, Royal Irish Rifles Messines Ridge British Cemetery 20/06/1917 31
18 Edward Owen Jones 7th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Arras Memorial   28/03/1918 24
19 Humphrey Jones 8th Btn, South Lancashire Regiment Thiepval Memorial   15/07/1916 26
20 John Thomas Jones 2nd Btn, Royal Welsh Fusiliers Arras Memorial   27/05/1917 34
21 Charles Dumville-Lees Royal Navy Killed at Sea  04/09/1919 25
22 Peter George Morris 111th Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps Abbeville Communal Cemetery   01/04/1918 31
23 James Platt Cheshire Yeomanry Trefonen Church   12/11/1918 37
24 Edward Probert 5th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Arras Memorial   09/04/1917 25
25 Humphrey Reynolds Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Trefonen Church   20/03/1919 30
26 Richard Richards 1st Btn, Royal Dublin Fusiliers V Beach Cemetery  30/04/1915 28
27 Richard Parry Roberts 25th Btn, Machine Gun Corps Tyne Cott Memorial  18/04/1918 32
28 Charles Frederick Rogers 1st Btn, Royal Welsh Fusiliers Ypres Menin Gate Memorial 30/10/1914 30
29 William Salter 5th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Ypres Menin Gate Memorial 25/09/1915 32
30 Aaron Scott 3rd/5th Btn, Lancashire Fusiliers Browns Road Military Cemetery 06/04/1917 24
31 John Hugh Wooding 6th Btn, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry Thiepval Memorial 30/08/1916 22
Edited by MBrockway
TJ Ellis, A Griffiths, CE Jones, C Dumville-Lees, W Salter now gone live. Links added.
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The Trefonen War Memorial ...

 

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2 minutes ago, Chris_Baker said:

Annette Burgoyne's work on the KSLI is bound to have covered at least some of these men.

 

And I'm sure Clive Hughes may also have material on these names.

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The lack of responses on this interesting project :poppy: suggests the topic title is not attracting in the KSLI, RWF and Marches/NE Wales specialists, so I've posted another topic linking back to here with a better title to try to draw in Annette and Clive et al.  :P

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Annette doesn't use the forum much these days. She is much more active on Facebook with her day to day account of what her Shropshire men were doing. 

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CD Lees RN

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Aberdeen Journal 11 9 1919

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EE Dyke

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Hi 

Thanks for the info so far, There are already some interesting finds. Just to update everybody. I am the person building the database and the website so whilst some of your posts contain information I already have there are some that are new. I anm currently working on the Charles Cunningham Dumville Lees story and am in touch with his existing family. It is our intention to re create the lighting of the Peace Beacons in 2019 at which he attended at his family estate house in Trefonen 1919 before returning to his ship to meet his sad end so long after the end of the war. I actually have letters written by him to his Nanny during his training and war service including the Battle of Jutland and these will go live soon on the website before we return the actual letters to the family. I do follow Annette on Facebook. As you are probably aware i am fairly new to the forum so still learning my way around so thanks for all the information so far.

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Simon, the Edward Dyke post is interesting as i have struggled to find anything much on this member of the Dyke family. I am still unsure if his death after the war was attributed to an injury he received during his time with the Air Force? He is one of 5 members of the Dyke Family on our Memorial, Two brothers William and Thomas, cousins George Edward and Edward and Danial Considine who married into the family.

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i'll have a look - his Silver War Badge suggests so:

 

First Name: Edward
Initials: E
Surname: Dyke
Nationality: British
Incident Details: Sickness; age 28
Rank: Air Mechanic 2rd Class
Service Number: 98973
Service From Date: 14/02/16
Service To Date: 09/01/18
Silver War Badge Number: 381937
Gazette Info: 3244
Gazette Page: 246
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As you probably know death registered June 1919: NB discrepancy in age but the RFC records confirm birthdate of 1884

 

Name: Edward E Dyke
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Jun 1919
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Oswestry
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 725
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FH Carsley medical records 

First Name: F H
Surname: Carsley
Age: 24
Index Number of Admission: 18079
Rank: Private
Service Number: 15731
Years Service: 2 years 9 months
Months With Field Force: 1 year 11 months
Ailment: Not Yet Diagnosed (Pyrexia). Rec of Malaria
Date of Admission for Original Ailment: 28/07/1917
Date Transferred to Sick Convoy: 28/07/1917
Number/Designation of Ward: A2
Notes written in the Observations Column: 67. To No. 21 Stationary Hospital
Religion: Church of England
Regiment: King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Battalion: 8th (Service) Battalion (Why is this important?)
Other unit info: C Company
Archive Reference: MH106/617MH106/617 can be found at The National Archives in Kew, and contains First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen from No. 31 Casualty Clearing Station

 

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Thomas Dyke

 

First Name:    T
Surname:    Dyke
Age:    27
Index Number of Admission:    2835
Rank:    Private
Service Number:    12697
Years Service:    2 years 3 months
Months With Field Force:    1 year 1 month
Ailment:    Not yet diagnosed (Pyrexia)
Date of Admission for Original Ailment:    09/12/1916
Date Transferred to Sick Convoy:    10/12/1916 No. 28 Casualty Clearing Station
Regiment:    King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Battalion:    8th (Service) Battalion (Why is this important?)
Other unit info:    B Company
Archive Reference:    MH106/138 MH106/138 can be found at The National Archives in Kew, and contains First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen from 66th Field Ambulance

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First Name:    T
Surname:    Dyke
Age:    26
Index Number of Admission:    579
Rank:    Private
Service Number:    12697
Years Service:    1 year 10 months
Months With Field Force:    10 months
Ailment:    Enteritis
Date of Admission for Original Ailment:    21/07/1916
Date Transferred to Sick Convoy:    25/07/1916 No. 25 Casualty Clearing Station.
Regiment:    King's Shropshire Light Infantry
Battalion:    8th (Service) Battalion (Why is this important?)
Other unit info:    B Company

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First Name:    W
Surname:    Dyke
Rank:    Rifleman
Service Number:    Z/32
Gallantry Awards:    Mentioned in Despatches

Gazette Info:    Gazette issue 30093. Mentioned in Despatches by Sir Douglas Haig. Deserving of special mention.
Gazette Date:    25/05/1917
Gazette Page:    5167

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Hi Simon

Its interesting that he was mentioned in despatches. I had not found that out. This was recorded below in the Llangollen advertiser but not in the Border Counties Advertizer where his parents put a notice up about his death later.

Pte. William Dyke, Ghapei-1918-03-08Lane. Trefonen, charged by P.S. F. H. Jones with being an absentee from the Rifle Brigade, was remanded I to await an escort.

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I'll mail Andy to see if he has any info on the MiD

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3 hours ago, Ferndale said:

Hi Simon

Its interesting that he was mentioned in despatches. I had not found that out. This was recorded below in the Llangollen advertiser but not in the Border Counties Advertizer where his parents put a notice up about his death later.

Pte. William Dyke, Ghapei-1918-03-08Lane. Trefonen, charged by P.S. F. H. Jones with being an absentee from the Rifle Brigade, was remanded I to await an escort.

 

I think the forum editor tool has jumbled your formatting :wacko:

 

Can you confirm whether that date is 03 Aug 1918 or 08 Mar 1918?

[Edit: must be 08 Mar 1918 as he was KiA 28 May 1918 :poppy:]

 

And should that be 'Chapel Lane' rather than 'Ghapei Lane'?  I never assume typos with Welsh placenames without confirmation from a Welsh speaker!

 

Diolch yn fawr!

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Question #1 resolved by logical deduction!
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Yes that's right its how it appeared in the Llangollen Advertizer archives website Cymru1914.org. I have tried to upload the page from his war record that records his desertion and arrest but it is too big. The upload allowance for docs is very small?

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William Dyke did indeed have an M.I.D. dated 25/5/17. He was also in the 8th Rifle Brigade before going to the 2nd, being sent out as one of the replacements for the battalion after Hooge, embarking overseas on the 19/8/15.

In the 8th RB's nominal roll of December 1915 he was in "C" Company, will have a look to see if I have anything more on him for you.

 

Andy

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Many thanks Andy, I'm pretty new to the forum so am struggling a bit with uploads etc, but ive already got some new information on several I am researching.

 

Chris (Ferndale)

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