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Mark Hone

Irchonwelz Communal Cemetery, Belgium

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Mr Hone, I don't mind but I appreciate. Thank you.

Here, in French, Mr Dubuisson's answer. (tourist office)


Bonjour Christian,

 J’ai repris la traduction de M. Hone.

C’est parfait.


Tél. +32 (0) 68 68 13 01 | E-mail ldubuisson@ath.be



The girl of one of my neighbours wrote the German version ; unity is strength as we say in Belgium.


Am frühen Nachmittag des 10 November 1918 gehen englishe Soldaten des 2./5. Schützen-Bataillons Lancashire auf den Höhen des Dorfes Irchonwelz in Stellung, um Ath zu befreien.

Die Engländer werden durch die auf den Höhen des „Bois du Renard“ liegende deutsche Artellerie beschossen. Eine Granate explodiert hinter der Mauer des Bauernhofes unterhalb der Kapelle „Notre-Dame au Chêne“, wo sich Soldaten in Deckung befinden. Es wird 4 Tote und 7 Verletzte geben, von denen 4 aufgrund ihrer Verletzungen sterben werden. Am frühen Morgen des 11. November ist Ath befreit. Die 8 Soldaten, gefallen am Vortag des Waffenstillstandes, sind auf dem Friedhof von Irchonwelz begraben. Vergesst niemals ihr Opfer.

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Hello everyone,

we need one or 2 pictures of 2nd/5th Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers in very good defintion to illustrate those texts : who can help us ? I would be fine if we can obtain picture of insign like attached file (found on Wikipedia) but in good definition...


Thanks a lot !


Sébastien Morancé


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Mark Hone

Christian, I have sent you the German version which my friend has done. You can compare the two!

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The giants participate in the hundredth anniversary.

November 10th and 11th, 1918, Ath « Faubourg de Mons »(A suburb of Ath).

Former path of Valenciennes: the British soldiers move forward and discover the city.

After the Armistice of November 11th, the former path of Valenciennes loses its name, It will be the street of Scotland and the street of England.


In May 26th and 27th, 2018, it is the fair in the suburb of Mons

The streets of England and Scotland recover...British colors !

The giant « Adrien » wears two popies in his buttonhole.

Three other giants of the Suburb accompany him.

In our region, groups of young people still create new giants.

Maybe that a day, a giant of the Lancashire Fusilier will appear, or it will be the soldier Cyclist Sullivan killed in the morning of November 11th, 1918 in the suburb of Mons.

With us in Ath, certain giants are very former, the Giant Goliath is 537 years old !

The giant Adrien is only 28 years old.

Some photos of Saturday







The guests of Sunday

The giant « Louis le tailleur de pierre » comes from the village of Maffle. November 10th and 11th, 1918, the Scottish soldiers stayed overnight to Maffle.








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This panel will be fixed to the wall of the chapel Notre-Dame-au-Chêne to Irchonwelz tomorrow. On Wednesday, June 27th at 9:45 am, the pupils of the British section of the International school of Shape and those of the communal school of Irchonwelz will unveil it to the public.


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Cycle stroll of June 27th, 2018 with: the British Section, SHAPE International School and the communal school of Irchonwelz

Pictures 01, 02: Inauguration: a tribute to 8 soldiers of the Lancashire Fusiliers killed on November 10th, 1918

Picture 03: Inside of the chapel « Notre-Dame-au-Chêne », Irchonwelz

Picture 04: the chapel « Notre-Dame-au-Chêne »

Picture 05: the Lancashire Rose where the soldiers were killed. It is the pupils of the communal school of Irchonwelz, who drew this rose on a wooden panel.

Picture 06: Our British guests.

Picture 07: in 1918, the small way followed the wall which was much longer

Pictures 08, 09: in the cemetery: small bunches of flowers for each, speech and minute of silence.

Picture 10: we followed the progress of the British troops, we pass by the street Of England.

Pictures 11, 12: recent conversion of the former refinery; it is here that the soldier Sullivan Edward ( 7th Corps Cyclists Battalion) was killed. (november 10th for      the CWGC, november 11th for the Daily Mail.)

Pictures 13, 14: in front of us: this boat, LONDON ! The Private Sullivan was also of London

Picture 15: the arrival is very close.

Picture 16: the cycling world is put in the honor.

Picture 17: during the German bombardment of November 10th, 1918, 3 civilians of the same family were killed, Mr Minet is their great-grandson.



















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Mr Hone

You were already able to taste (to enjoy?) the beer of Irchonwelz " Gouyass ". During your next visit, October 22nd, 2018, to Irchonwelz, after the ceremony of tribute to the killed soldiers 10-11-1918, you will discover another beer: " le Scotch de Silly " (Obviously, to drink on the way back, at home).

Silly is a nearby village. Here is the history of this beer.

PAYNE George, «Jack», was born in Melbourn Cambs (Cambridgeshire) 08-11-1888. He is the son of Albert Payne and Annie Whoutcok.

He is drill sergeant, Royal regiment Essex Rt. . In 1919, his regiment is stationed to Silly.

One day, he leaves in search of a beer for his men. The brewer Adelin Mynsbrughen does not possess a beer « à l'Anglaise ». So, Jack decides to help him make this beer, The « Scotch de Silly » was born, we always sell it now.

The history is not ended ! Jack meets Emilie Timermans, he marries her and they return to England. In 1922, his military contract is ended, he returns to Silly with Emilie and 2 children !

All in all, they will have 10 children !! He takes back the bar of his parents-in-law on the square of Silly. He also returns to work on the brewery as well as on the factory of chicory, where he will lose a leg. As he carried a wooden leg " in the former", everybody recognized him in the region.

He died 30-03-1975, he has his grave in the cemetery of Silly.

George, the brother of Jack Payne, died on November 13th, 1918; his name is on the war memorial of Fowlmere in England.

On Saturday, October 13th, the English and Belgian descendants of Jack Payne shall gather for the hundredth anniversary of the beer: « scotch of Silly » in the presence of madam ambassadress of Great Britain. Do you wish for a photo of this event?


In Ath Communal cemetery, are buried:

- Cpl Payne W, died 23-02-1919


- Driver Payne W H dead 16-02-1919, Rawtenstall ( Manchester)

(Rawtenstall? I went with the tourist train there! It is close to Bury?)


Jack Payne Beer.JPG

Jack Payne.jpg

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M Hone

The tourist information office of Silly booked me some posters for you and your friends.

Unfortunately there is no English version.



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Mark Hone

I'm looking forward to sampling this 'silly' brew!

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Centenary toast for British soldier's Belgium-brewed WW1 ale

It is a report of the BBC about Jack Payne, the link :



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