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We have these except 

8360

 

 

 

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navydoc,

Have you been hiding this litter for a rainy day!!!.

First, we already have #1658 and #8363. and the one you called # 8360 is I believe, #8363.

From what I can see smiling tigers numbered 7434, 2830, 4931, 4021 6310, 4907, 1724, 2456 and 1857 are all new to the list, for a total of 9 new kittens.

I am sure JMB will double check us before updating.

Ian Skennerton has just recently put up a u-tube video on his up and coming new "Brit. Com. Bay. book 2025" if anyone's interested in having a look.

Cheers,

TR

 

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@t.ryan Keep them stashed for a bulk post! Just kidding  

glad to know at least some of them were good. I vetted them first to make sure they were new. 
 

would be nice if they always came in big batches

I have a couple bayonets in that new book haha, has been a fun project 

kind regards

g

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@navydoc16,

Many thanks for searching all of those world auction sites----very profitable!!

@t.ryan,

Many thanks, likewise, for checking the numbers---helps me a lot!!

N.B. Not 4021 but 5021.

Updated Table is posted below, and the possible confusion of 3 with 7 (5323/5327) raises some issues, and frankly is making me more than a little nervous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Total = 355, have I missed some???

Could you post some photos of serials that clearly differentiate 3 from 7: Here are those serials that show a 3 & a 7 in the same number, e.g., 732; 3057; 3070; 3078; 3372; 3673; 3734; 3797; 3997; 4537; 4937; 6137; 6732; 6737; 7143; 7434; 7435; 7538; 7603; 7923; 7973; 8732; 8737; 8783; 9337; 9377; 9737; 9973.

Those highlighted should serve, but no need to post three or so that really show good differentiation.

Thanks for your help with this (for your sleepless nights...)!

Regards,

JMB

1

1013

2011

3008

4060

5021

6013

7056

8089

9047

32XX…..1

6

1021

2074

3022

4070

5027

6014

7062

8104

9070

5X46

35

1046

2078

3038

4078

5044

6107

7094

8181

9088

608X

67

1048

2106

3057

4087

5066

6137

7128

8262

9091

808X

96

1099

2133

3070

4116

5154

6212

7143

8289

9130

X2X2….5

106

1115

2177

3078

4127

5168

6249

7187

8349

9185

XX1

107

1118

2219

3090

4150

5171

6274

7214

8363

9229

X070

130

1166

2247

3132

4236

5221

6279

7386

8388

9233

104X

145

1202

2278

3155

4292

5225

6285

7408

8415

9247

X33X

290

1241

2279

3202

4335

5227

6296

7434

8496

9264

X95 …10

320

1287

2280

3260

4378

5238

6310

7435

8594

9288

71X

326

1306

2339

3279

4403

5240

6339

7441

8625

9296

16XX

330

1326

2390

3290

4406

5329

6346

7538

8651

9306

X97

341

1348

2399

3349

4409

5351

6363

7594

8655

9337

437X

392

1360

2411

3359

4451

5391

6368

7600

8688

9338

X400….15

404

1367

2418

3372

4454

5405

6384

7603

8712

9356

298X

427

1431

2456

3395

4496

5411

6430

7606

8714

9372

7X35

456

1482

2529

3400

4537

5502

6476

7611

8715

9383

 

495

1485

2590

3449

4570

5524

6485

7626

8726

9385

 

505

1497

2622

3454

4629

5531

6527

7694

8732

9412

………20

516

1527

2675

3472

4632

5601

6552

7745

8737

9413

 

533

1584

2702

3496

4650

5603

6557

7778

8741

9458

 

541

1635

2715

3572

4651

5620

6581

7860

8751

9459

 

544

1648

2764

3673

4654

5960

6630

7905

8783

9499

 

577

1658

2784

3682

4724

 

6732

7923

8788

9502

……..25

590

1669

2815

3689

4770

 

6737

7948

8793

9559

 

625

1685

2830

3734

4779

 

6750

7973

8832

9589

 

631

1724

2833

3797

4803

 

6801

7999

8833

9737

 

635

1757

2849

3810

4851

 

6819

 

8964

9774

 

644

1758

2851

3815

4907

 

6831

 

8985

9792

….30

649

1761

2925

3816

4931

 

6847

 

 

9851

 

711

1829

2936

3891

4937

 

 

 

 

9903

 

714

1831

2976

3893

4962

 

 

 

 

9908

 

732

1857

 

3958

4983

 

 

 

 

9931

 

788

1860

 

3992

 

 

 

 

 

9957

….35

827

1889

 

3997

 

 

 

 

 

9968

 

836

1909

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9973

 

847

1926

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9993

 

866

1966

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10,000

 

891

1980

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

….40

941

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

979

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

997

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

43

40

33

36

34

24

31

28

30

39

17 = 355

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JMB,

#5021 for sure, just a slip of the finger. :devilgrin: 

I will check the list out when I am updating my photo list of the recent smiling cat findings.

Some photo's with #s 3, 7 as requested.

# 732, 3673, 3734, 4378, 6732, & 7973.

As you can see, the tail of the 3 should end lower than the turn back of the tail of the 7 and is very clearly shown on #3673.

Cheers,

TR

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@JMB1943 no worries at all, actually that batch was 20mins work. I found a forum on FB again that I had not mined. 

Kind regards,

g

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Mr TR,

A nice selection of 3/7’s in those photos, many thanks for taking the time to sort them out!

Regards,

JMB

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JMB,

New list looks good as far as all the new numbers go except for the dreaded, is it a 3 or is it a 7 number; 5327 which has not been entered yet. 

I think this close up photo of # 5327 should help you decide that the last # is clearly a 7.

Cheers,

TR 

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TR,

Yes, that close-up certainly helps, and I would agree with #5327.

Regards,

JMB

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@navydoc16,

It has certainly been All Quiet on the Southern Front recently, so thanks for these 3 new cats!

I bet that they thought they were safe………

Regards,

JMB

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@JMB1943 just a note, that of the last 20 odd I have found, all are from Down Under, meaning we definitely seem to have the majority of these pieces

kind regards

g

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Yes, I remember the earlier discussions about the destination(s) of these bayonets when they left Thailand. Wasn’t it in two batches—-one to AUS and the other to US?

So no surprise that so many are found by you down under.

Thanks again for all the efforts put in by yourself, Mr TR and Phil B.

Regards,

JMB

 

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JMB, Phil, nayydoc,

On walkabout at the moment, but can see a few smiling tigers are starting to come out of winter hibernation.

Not sure if I can upload it at the moment but I think I may have another one, #4474, which does not appear to be listed yet, will confirm in a couple of days.

Only using iPad and bad wi-fi, but looks like it has upload.

Did not realise at the time but this one also has an original leather smiling tiger numbered scabbard, non matching but a nice pair. # 4738.

JMB, this one from your side of the pond.

Cheers,

TR

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Hi everyone 

I can't see this one as having being registered before, 7529 but may have interpreted the numbers incorrectly. Can someone check? 

Cheers

Mark

 

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mcb9022,

Smiling tiger #7529 is correct and it would appear to be another new number for the list, thanks for adding.

Cheers,

TR

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Gentlemen,

Thanks for posting and confirming this newest cat; I’ll update the Table at the end of the month.

Regards,

JMB

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