johnboy Posted 18 August , 2016 Share Posted 18 August , 2016 (edited) Can anyone ID her uniform? Edited 18 August , 2016 by johnboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 18 August , 2016 Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Canadian Army Medical Corps? - http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/mclean_rena_maude_14E.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 18 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Thanks IPT I was about to post that she was a Sister with CAMC. Perhaps answers the question re her uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 18 August , 2016 Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 18 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Spot on, Was the pic captioned giving both ranks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 18 August , 2016 Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Sorry, yes; Pictures of a WW1 Canadian Army Medical Corps Matron (left) with the Service Dress and Nursing Sister (right). Matron had three brass ranks on the shoulder strap and Nursing Sister had only two. Matron had the rank of Captain and Nursing Sister had the rank of Lieutenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 18 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 August , 2016 Thanks again. I am hoping the pics I am posting and all the additional info will be of help to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 19 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2016 Sinking of the hospital ship Llandovery CastleOne of the worst atrocities of the Naval war was is reported to have happened on 27 June, 1918, when SM U-86 (Oblt.z.S. Helmut Patzig), against international law and standing orders of the Imperial German Navy, sank the hospital ship LLandovery Castle. On top of that, he ordered his U-boat to ram the life boats and shot at the survivors. Of a crew of 258 of the LLandovery Castle only 24 survived. For this war crime, Patzig and his watch officers were tried after the war before a German court at Leipzig and were condemned to four years imprisonment. Patzig could not be found to be tried and his officers "escaped" on the way to labor camp. Justice not done. Patzig signed up again WW2 From U boat net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilinsky Posted 21 August , 2016 Share Posted 21 August , 2016 McLean was the daughter of a senior judge in Canada (Prince Edward Island). Patzig trained U boat crews in Germany throughout WW2 and died in the 1980s in Germany unrepentant. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 21 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2016 Thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilinsky Posted 21 August , 2016 Share Posted 21 August , 2016 At the Leipzig trail held in the early summer of 1921 for the 2 junior officers aboard the U-86 Patzig's command (and whose submarine wreck is to be found on the southern coast of England or at least until recently was there) one of the officers clearly exclaimed that he admired Patzig and that England would never have won the war if men like Patzig had commanded the other U-boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 21 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2016 Out of interest, do you know if any other u boat captains that sank hospital ships were tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilinsky Posted 21 August , 2016 Share Posted 21 August , 2016 Yes. Lt-Commander (actual sub commander) Neumann(sp?) was tried just before the Llandovery Castle case at Leipzig but acquitted for the sinking of the British hospital ship Dover Castle in the Mediterranean Sea 1917. The old tried and legitimate defence argument that uses you also (sorry I never did take Latin) therefore if everyone engaged in such "practices" one side cannot therefore hold the defeated party to a standard that the victor never abided by(glaringly clear in the Pacific theater WW2 with aero-naval assaults on Japanese hospital ships). There is case law though about hospital ships as prizes of war and civil liabilities for damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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