brianmorris547 Posted 21 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 21 February , 2017 (edited) There is a date on this list 04/01/1919. It must date to December 1918 The SWB Roll for 560200 Frederick Noyce shows that he was discharged on 29/03/1919 with sickness. Edited 8 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 23 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 23 February , 2017 3378 Spr B J Lodge is named in the Times OCL 08/09/1916 under RE wounded. His SWB roll shows that he enlisted on 15/09/1915 and was discharged on 16/05/1917 from 1/3 South Mid FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 24 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 24 February , 2017 (edited) Sappers George A Knights, Cyril E Mountain, Howard Hardbattle, Robert Johnston and Henry J Gibbins all have service records which date this partial list to November 1916. Edited 8 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 25 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 25 February , 2017 (edited) 139335 Spr Weston G is named in the Times OCL on 05/01/1916 and again on 08/09/1916 under RE wounded. The first of these two lists show that he was also wounded on 15/07/1917. The second list shows that he was serving with 183 TC and dates to 1918. George Weston was k in a on 01/09/1918 serving with 183 TC. The service record of Cyril Francis Forster on the same list shows that he transferred to the RE from the RGA on 01/05/1917. He was admitted to hospital on 07/05/1918 while attached to 56 Brigade RGA. Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 26 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2017 (edited) On 24/09/2016 at 03:47, Alisonmallen62 said: I am looking for recorded info on 121966 Sapper Thomas Lloyd RE wounded poss 1917 perhaps these lists will eventually show him? Alison Checking 121966 on FMP does not bring up a result for T Lloyd so I tried to search on T LLoyd with Royal Engineers in the keywords box. It produced two lists showing 112811 T Lloyd of 175 Tunnelling Co and 132696 T Lloyd of 250 Tunnelling Co. The first list can be dated to mid 1916. 62527 Cpl Harry C White of 123 FC died of wounds at 10 Stat Hos on 08/06/1916. The service record of 68191 Donald Whyte records that he was admitted to hospital on 04/06/1916 and the service record of 100177 Benjamin Viollet records that he was admitted to hospital on 29/05/1916 with a gsw. I notice 81694 F Pearson of 202 FC on this list. He is a 30 Div RE who went out to France in November 1915 with 30 Div RE. Brian Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonmallen62 Posted 26 February , 2017 Share Posted 26 February , 2017 Hi Brian many thanks for this info. Bit confused as to why Lloyds number doesn't bring him up. Could he have had different numbers in RE? We have his medals which give the 121966 and medal card obtained from ancestry. I read with interest that a T Lloyd helped rescue. I realise there were several Sapper Lloyds but My grandfather said he had been a very brave soldier and I think he may have rescued miners in Wales. Being buried seemed to me possibly one reason he got work on top of the land after the war as opposed to under. Maybe it was too much. Will see what ancestry shows with those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 28 February , 2017 Author Share Posted 28 February , 2017 Alison The way to tease out these floating documents, which include these casualty lists, is by checking the results of a FMP service number check to see if there are any which just show surnames and initials. I have just confirmed that a FMP number check on 81694 with Royal Engineers in the keywords box does not bring up Pearson F, and yet there he is on post 80. I will now have to double check my results by searching initials and surnames. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonmallen62 Posted 28 February , 2017 Share Posted 28 February , 2017 Ok thanks, you never know my Lloyd may just turn up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 1 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 1 March , 2017 (edited) Alison It seems that he only had one number, 121966. You might try to play around with the service numbers of the men in the same page of the medal roll to see if that brings up any clues e.g 121960 Stanier Morris was awarded the MM and the DCM. The LG however does not identify his Unit and there is no service record. Brian Another partial list from 1918, the service record of 165620 Neil Littleson records that he arrived in East Africa on 01/06/1917 and spent some time recuperating in South Africa before being admitted to hospital in England on 11/03/1918 with malaria and dysentry. EDIT: MGC men A E Newton and C McCoag also contracted malaria in East Africa in August and November 1917 restectively. Sgt McCoag was invalided to England in December 1917. Sgt Clitheroe was invalided to England in February 1918. This may be a UK list from March 1918. Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonmallen62 Posted 1 March , 2017 Share Posted 1 March , 2017 Had a look at the Lloyds on the previous list and one was from Markham and as it is more or less where my family went to school, lived in different homes etc I did wonder till I found more documents and he was a much younger man. Anyhow looking at others with similar numbers they were definitely tunnellers but not clear which company. I also wonder if the book I have with T Lloyd quoted would be him. Like you said above there may still be a list that turns up somewhere with info on his wound! Never give up is my policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 3 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 3 March , 2017 (edited) Mine too Alison This list H 4164 is from the Med. There are no dates on it so I will post it here. The service record of 48369 John Price records that he was admitted to 54 CCS with jaundice on 20/11/1915 and evacuated to hospital in Malta. The service record of 61392 Albert G Jones records that he was also admitted to 54 CCS on 22/11/1915 with jaundice and also evacuated to hospital in Malta. The WDs of 67, 86 FCs and the CRE 11 Div are available on Ancestry (Gallipoli) and make interesting reading. EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 60. Other lists H 4164 are November 1915. Edited 8 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisonmallen62 Posted 3 March , 2017 Share Posted 3 March , 2017 Will take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 15 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2017 (edited) This partial list is difficult to date, 40190 Spr Percy McCoubrey (correct spelling) is named in the Times OCL 18/09/1916 under RE wounded. 64291 George Lunn was wounded in 1918. 136232 John Dalton was admitted to hospital on 22/03/1918. He was moved to England on the same day. 220206 Pnr Rees was gassed on 22/03/1918 and moved to England on 30/03/1918. 20274 John W Daw was also moved to England on 31/03/1918. Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 16 March , 2017 Share Posted 16 March , 2017 (edited) Sjack91 He served with 409 (Lowland) Field Company which had its pre-war HQ at Rutherglen. In December 1914 they were at Bridge of Allan and on 16 December disembarked at Havre serving with 1st Division. They have a war diary (in two parts) which can be downloaded from TNA for a fee: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=409+field+company TR ps - it might be better if you asked the mods to move this to the Soldiers section as this tread has a specific purpose. Edited 16 March , 2017 by Terry_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjack91 Posted 16 March , 2017 Share Posted 16 March , 2017 Thanks Terry. Appreciate the help. Just thought I would take the opportunity whilst the post was active. Where did you come across the source that states he was with the 409? I did not know him however my father did. He told a story that one of his first jobs was to blow up a boxed like object. He was sent out with a group of engineers and told to take tnt and light weapons only. It was a piece of plant that he had never seen before. After he returned to base he asked what it was they had to blow up and he was told it was a tank. The first one he had ever seen. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 16 March , 2017 Share Posted 16 March , 2017 (edited) Stuart You can tell his unit from his number. There was a renumbering of the TF at the beginning of 1917 when blocks of numbers were issued to particular units. At the same time units were also renumbered - 1st (Lowland) Field became 409 Company. Although the HQ of Lowland Divisional Engineers was at Rutherglen the company itself was based at Coatbridge with a drill station at Airdrie. TR Edited 16 March , 2017 by Terry_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 16 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2017 (edited) Stuart He does not appear on my index but this is an ongoing project, I will keep a look out for his name. I notice from his Silver War Badge Roll that he enlisted on 31/05/1916 and was discharged on 13/09/1918 due to sickness. He was aged 33. I will check his details on FMP to see if he appears on one of these lists and will let you know. The purpose of this thread is to identify the Units of soldiers whose service and pension records have not survived. As Terry says you may have more response if you start a separate thread about him in Soldiers. I will check on Saturday when next in the library. Brian In the meantime, part of List C/768 mostly 1916. EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 61. Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 17 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2017 (edited) This partial list dates to September 1916. The service record of Percival G Fordham, correct number 146210, shows that he was admitted to hospital on 09/09/1916 serving with 12 FC. He was discharged to 4 GBD and on 29/09/1916 was posted from there to 91 FC. Edited 18 March , 2017 by brianmorris547 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 18 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2017 (edited) Sappers Burns and Fraser are mentioned in the WD of 206 FC (32 Div) as being wounded on 23/08/1916. The Company was working in the trenches at Le Preol near Bethune. Both are named in the Times OCL 21/09/1916 under RE wounded. Edited 9 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 19 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2017 (edited) 159512 Spr J Greenhalgh is named in the Times OCL 21/09/1916 under RE wounded. This list is dated September 1917. EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 62. Edited 10 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 20 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 20 March , 2017 66641 Spr Collins G A is named in the Times OCL 09/12/1916 under RE wounded. All the REs on this list were transferred FSSD, which I take to be Fenny Stratford Signals Depot for their time in hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 21 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 21 March , 2017 (edited) 81601 Cpl Winter G R enlisted into the County Palatine RE (30 Div) and disembarked in France on 10/11/1915 which puts him in 202 FC, as this list shows. He is named in the Times OCL 17/04/1916 under RE wounded. EDIT: Re posted in Casualty Lists p 62. Edited 10 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 29 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 29 March , 2017 (edited) This partial list dates to June 1916 from the Med. The service record for 1438 William Hunter shows that he was serving with 13 Base Park Company on 28/04/1916. He is also named on HC 413 dated June 1916, posted on Casualty Lists p 62. The service record of 77135 Cecil J Roberts shows that he served with the MEF from 07/02/1916 to 03/06/1916. Edited 10 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 30 March , 2017 Author Share Posted 30 March , 2017 (edited) 96742 Cpl Pillans is named in the Times OCL 29/09/1916 under RE wounded. He was also admitted to 4 SH in February 1916 with Flu and myopic astigma. (MH 106/1441). The 1914 - 15 Medal Rolls for J Corcoran show that he was ex Manchester Regt who went out to Gallipoli in November 1915. The Roll shows that he was discharged under para 392 on 31/05/1916 but there is no trace of a SWB. Edited 10 March , 2022 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 9 April , 2017 Author Share Posted 9 April , 2017 The service record of 478225 2/Cpl Ollerenshaw, W (correct first names Charles John) shows that he was admitted to hospital on 11/05/1917 from 460 FC and was discharged from 2 Conv Depot on 07/07/1917 to Base Details. He rejoined 460 FC on 27/07/1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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