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David Filsell

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The link in post #17 to the Dix Noonan Webb catalogue for the sale of Kenneth O'Brien Harding does not work, so here it is copied and pasted if anyone wishes to read it.

A Great War Mesopotamia operations O.B.E., O. St. J. group of eleven awarded to Major K. O’B. Harding, Indian Army, onetime attached North Staffordshire Regiment, who was also thrice mentioned in despatches for his services in the 13th Duke of Connaught’s Lancers (Watson’s Horse)

The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, O.B.E. (Military) Officer’s 1st type breast badge, silver-gilt, hallmarks for London 1919; The Order of St. John of Jerusalem, Officer ‘s (Brother’s) breast badge, silvered-metal; 1914-15 Star (Capt. K. O’B. Harding, N. Staffs.); British War and Victory Medals, M.I.D. oak leaf (Capt. K. O’B. Harding); India General Service 1908-35, 1 clasp, Afghanistan N.W.F. 1919 (Capt. K. O’B. Harding, 13th L.); 1939-45 Star; Africa Star; Defence and War Medals 1939-45; Coronation 1937, enamel on arm points of the second slightly chipped, otherwise generally good very fine (11) £800-1000

Footnote

O.B.E. London Gazette 3 June 1919:

‘For valuable services rendered in connection with military operations in Mesopotamia.’

O. St. J. London Gazette 2 January 1953.

Kenneth O’Brien Harding was born in August 1894, the second son of Sir Charles O’Brien Harding, Kt. and was placed on the Unattached List for the Indian Army on graduating from the R.M.C. Sandhurst in August 1914. He was, however, quickly appointed to the 1st Battalion, North Staffordshire Regiment and went to France in February 1915.

Subsequently confirmed in his intended Indian Army appointment, namely in the 13th Duke of Connaught’s (Watson’s Horse), Harding was actively employed in Mesopotamia, being present in actions on the Tigris and Euphrates and at the capture of Ana and Mosel. He was awarded the O.B.E. and thrice mentioned in despatches (London Gazettes 27 August 1918, 21 February and 5 June 1919, refer). Having then served in the Third Afghan War, he transferred to the 6th Lancers and was placed on the Indian Army Reserve of Officers in May 1924.

Next employed as a Private Secretary to Lord Wakehurst, Governor of New South Wales, Harding returned to military duty as a Major in the 1939-45 War, when he served as Deputy Assistant Provost Marshal with H.Q. 1st Armoured Division, 8th Army in the Western Desert; his private papers in respect of these services are held in the Imperial War Museum’s archive (ref. catalogue number 19779).

Post-war, Harding served as Clerk to the Executive Council of the Bahamas in the 1950s. He died in April 1967; sold with the recipient’s original O.B.E. warrant and certificate for his Coronation Medal 1937, together with a quantity of copied research.

 

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A slightly different link for the information above

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Medals&lot_id=264781

 

Cheers

Maureen

Edit: the link doesn't seem to work directly, but seems to work if you copy and paste.

Second edit: The first link given by HarryBrook also works if you copy and paste it.

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Carleton Stuart Searle

London Gazette after being gazetted to the unattached list Indian Army:

From unattached Ind. Army List, to be temp. Lt. while serving with R. Berks R. 10.3.1915

Issue 29189 of 11.6.1915 page 5637

Awarded the Military Cross

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29240/supplement/7283

2nd Lt. from Ind. Army Unattached List to be 2nd Lt. Ind. Army 9.8.1915.

Issue 29328 of 15.10.1915 page 10169

Relinquished the actg. rank of Lt. 10.10.1915 [on leaving R. Berks R.]

Issue 29518 of 21.3.1916 page 3163

97th Deccan Infantry, promoted Lt. 8.11.1916

Issue 29904 of 16.1.1917 page 614

Rank of Lt. ante-dated to 1.9.1915

Issue 30236 of 17.8.1917 page 8459

97th Deccan Infantry, to be actg. Capt. while comdg. a Coy. 30.9.1916 [to 21.7.1917]

Issue 30453 of 1.1.1918 page 170

97th Deccan Infantry, Lt. (actg. Capt.) to be actg. Maj. while second in command of a Bn. 22.7.1917

Issue 30565 of 8.3.1918 page 3001

1919 Army List states actg. Maj. from 22.7.1917 to 14.10.1917 when he reverted to actg. Capt.

Actg. Capt. 15.10.1917 to 10.4.1918

97th Deccan Infantry, Lt. (actg. Capt.) to be actg. Maj. while second in command of a Bn. 11.4.1918

Issue 31162 of 4.2.1919 page 1812

97th Deccan Infantry, relinquished the actg. rank of Maj. on ceasing to be second in command of a Bn. and reverted to actg. Capt. while comdg. a Coy. 6.6.1918

Issue 31501 of 12.8.1919 page 10234

Promoted to Captain 8.8.1918

Issue 31243 of 21.3.1919 page 3760

Captain, transferred to the Ind. Army Supy. List 1.8.1931

Issue 33771 of 13.11.1931 page 7331

Promoted to Major 8.8.1932

Issue 33864 of 16.9.1932 page 5894

Promoted to Lieutenant-Colonel 8.8.1940

Issue 34978 of 25.10.1940 page 6195

Notification of date of retirement no found.

 

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This has all been of tremendous help. Now to start completing entries for the officers, and trying to take their stories a little further. The Forum and its members, and the generosity here rarely fail to amaze me. I have received far more information than I had hoped For and possibly and there may even be more to come. I am most grateful.

Very best regards to all

David.

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John Parke Fullerton

London Gazette and Army Lists after being gazetted to the Unattached List, Indian Army on 14.1.1914

2nd Lt. from Unattached list to be 2nd Lt. 41st Dogras 12.10.1914 (Army list states date of 10.10.1914)

Issue 29098 of 12.3.1915 page 2517

Promoted to Lt., 41st Dogras, 14.4.1916

Issue 29651 of 4.7.1916 page 6615

Rank of Lt. ante-dated to 1.9.1915

Issue 30236 of 17.8.1917 page 8459

Lt. to be actg. Capt. while comd. a Coy., 41st Dogras 17.2.1917 [to 13.1.1918]

Issue 30453 of 1.1.1918 page 161

Promoted to Capt. 14.1.1918

Issue 30808 of 28.7.1918 page 8630

To be actg. Maj. while second in command of a Bn., attd. 2nd Bn. 41st Dogras, 21.7.1920

Issue 32280 of 5.4.1921 page 2676

Relinquished the actg. rank of Maj. on ceasing to be second in command of a Bn., 1st Bn. 41st Dogras, attd. 2nd Bn. 17.5.1921

Issue 32598 of 3.2.1922 page 964

Promoted to Major 14.1.1932

Issue 33802 of 26.2.1932 page 1298

Mentioned in the despatch of Gen. Sir Philip Chetwode (Operations on the N.W. Frontier of India, Oct. 1930 - Mar. 1931)

3rd. Bn. 17th Dogra Regt., Fullerton, Lieut.-Col. J. P. [There is no gazette for this promotion, nor is it noted in the Army List, see rank in award of D.S.O., next.]

Issue 33823 of 6.5.1932 page 2959

Awarded the D.S.O. (Operations on the N.W. Frontier of India, Oct. 1930 - Mar. 1931) 

Major J. P. Fullerton, 3rd Bn. 17th Dogra Regt. Indian Army.

Issue 33823 of 6.5.1932 page 2958

Promoted to Lt.-Col. 6.12.1937

Issue 34487 of 25.2.1938 page 1264

Promoted to Col. in the Indian Army [and temp. Brigadier on the same date, Army List]

Temp. Brig. J. P. Fullerton, D.S.O. (282829) 3.1.1943 with seniority from 6.12.1940

Issue 36112 of 27.7.1943 page 3427

Retired in the rank of Col. 30.9.1947

Issue 38113 of 31.10.1947 page 5144

Granted the hon. rank of Brigadier 30.9.1947

Col. J. P. Fullerton, D.S.O. (282829) Ind. Army (Ret'd.)

Issue 38092 of 10.10.1947 page 4746

 

Note: The Army Lists state that he was a Staff Captain from 19.11.1920 [the London Gazette gives a date of 5.11.1920] to 20.12.1920.

Issue 32792 of 2.2.1923 page 813. However the London Gazette index entry for Capt. J. P. Fullerton relating to Issue 32792 of 2.2.1923 page 819 states that the previous notification was cancelled, so it is little difficult to know if he did actually serve as a Staff Capt. Some of the stated period also overlaps with him being second in command of 2nd Bn. Dogra Regt.

 

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Harry,

Greatly apreciated Harry, both for your reply and your time.

Regards

David

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David,

 

Do you have this chap already covered or is this any use:

 

Colonel Anthony Aloysius Emmanuel “Flossie” Filose

 

 Born 19th September 1895 in India, son of Lt-Col Clement Filose, M.V.O. in service with the Maharaja of Gwalior (the family served here for five generations).

 

Educated Stoneyhurst and RMC Sandhurst, where he won the Anson Memorial Prize, the prize for military law, military administration and physical training.

 

First commissioned 8th August 1914 to Unattached List, Indian Army.

 

Attached 4th Bn Liverpool Regiment March 1915 when battalion goes to France.

 

Served in France, wounded 15th June 1915.

 

Second Lieutenant, Indian Army 7th September 1915 (LG 15 October 1915)

 

Joined IA 5th November 1915

 

Appointed to 39th Central India Horse 9th November 1915 in India

 

Later served in Palestine attached 38th CIH.

 

Married 3rd August 1931 Geraldine May Constance, eldest daughter of G. V. Burrowes, widow (?) of John Everard Newberry, in London

 

Lt-Col 15th August 1936

 

Commanded 21st Central India Horse 15th August 1936 - 14th August 1939

 

Commander 1st Risalpur Cavalry Brigade and Brigadier 4th April 1939  – 31st August 1940

 

Commanded a Indian Brigade (April?) June 1941 – 7th August 1942 (or January 1943) as a Temporary Brigadier in the Western Desert

 

Retired a Colonel on 28th July 1946 (LG 2nd August 1946) amended to 3rd August 1946 (LG 21st March 1947) 

 

Died 3rd May 1965 in hospital at Ascot (his widow died 10 March 1983).

 

For information.

 

Matthew

 

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On 05/09/2016 at 15:11, Matthew B. said:

David,

 

Do you have this chap already covered or is this any use:

 

Colonel Anthony Aloysius Emmanuel “Flossie” Filose

 

 Born 19th September 1895 in India, son of Lt-Col Clement Filose, M.V.O. in service with the Maharaja of Gwalior (the family served here for five generations).

 

Educated Stoneyhurst and RMC Sandhurst, where he won the Anson Memorial Prize, the prize for military law, military administration and physical training.

 

First commissioned 8th August 1914 to Unattached List, Indian Army.

 

Attached 4th Bn Liverpool Regiment March 1915 when battalion goes to France.

 

Served in France, wounded 15th June 1915.

 

Second Lieutenant, Indian Army 7th September 1915 (LG 15 October 1915)

 

Joined IA 5th November 1915

 

Appointed to 39th Central India Horse 9th November 1915 in India

 

Later served in Palestine attached 38th CIH.

 

Married 3rd August 1931 Geraldine May Constance, eldest daughter of G. V. Burrowes, widow (?) of John Everard Newberry, in London

 

Lt-Col 15th August 1936

 

Commanded 21st Central India Horse 15th August 1936 - 14th August 1939

 

Commander 1st Risalpur Cavalry Brigade and Brigadier 4th April 1939  – 31st August 1940

 

Commanded a Indian Brigade (April?) June 1941 – 7th August 1942 (or January 1943) as a Temporary Brigadier in the Western Desert

 

Retired a Colonel on 28th July 1946 (LG 2nd August 1946) amended to 3rd August 1946 (LG 21st March 1947) 

 

Died 3rd May 1965 in hospital at Ascot (his widow died 10 March 1983).

 

For information.

 

Matthew

 

Hello Matthew, Might this be the same A A Filose who wrote Volume Two of the Central India Horse Regimental History in 1950? Many thanks, Charlie (Descendant of Capt John Tipper CIH 1945-47). 

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Chafrly et al ?particularly Al!)

Than you all for great help, and the trouble you all took to reply, I am most grateful

best regard

Davd

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