David Filsell Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 As part of a very long term research project I have been examining the military careers of all the members of the last class to graduate from Sandhurst in August 19 - the result of finding a gale and Polden Group photograph of the class at a country auction. I have found considerable information on virtually all of the officers commissioned to British units - one rose to the rank of Air Vice Marshall and died in WW2. in an strange aircraft accident. Not surprisingly a number of the "Indians" were noted as being later attached to British Army Regiments (these are noted and I have not as yet researched them). Equally this aspect of search is unknown territory for me. I have no helpful reference whatsoever on those who went to the Indian Army on leaving the college. are there any experts on the Forum who can provide any information whatsoever on the careers and fates of the officers listed below? Any and all assistance on the subject, about which I have only the most obvious books on the Indian, Army will be greatly appreciated. For information I include a brief statistical analysis White Benjamin Going, Date of Birth 31.08.94 Admitted to Sandhurst 04.09.12 Left College 17.12.13 Father's Profession Major-General (retired) Gazetted 12.01.14 Indian Army (attached 1st Bn Royal Sussex Regiment) Cameron Aylmer Lochiel Cameron Date of Birth 12.02.13 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.02.13 Left Sandhurst 15.07.14 Father's profession Major (deceased) Gazetted 08.08.14 Indian Army Curtis Alfred Cyril Curtis Date of Birth 02.11.94 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.02.13 Left Sandhurst 15.07.14 Father’s profession Major (deceased) Gazetted 15.02.14 Indian Army Fullerton John Parke Date of Birth 08.09.94 Admitted to College 04.09.12 Left College 17.12.13 Father's Profession Major I.M.S Gazetted 14.01.14 Indian Army (Attached 2nd Bn East Surrey Regiment) Harding Kenneth O`Brian Date of Birth 28.08.94 Admitted to College 12.02.13 Left College 15.07.14 Father's Profession Doctor Gazetted 15.08.14 Indian Army Roberts Michael Rookhurst Date of Birth 34.10.94 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.02.13 Left College 15.07.14 Father’s Profession Civil Engineer Gazetted 08.08.14 Indian Army Searle Carlton Stuart Date of Birth 11.10.95 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.0213 Left College 15.07.14 Father’s Profession Colonel Gazetted 08.08.14 Indian Army Winner of Signalling Prize Tuker Corporal F I S (sic) Tukor Corporal Francis Ivan Simms Date of Birth 14.07.94 Admitted to Sandhurst 04.09.12 Left College 17.12.13 Father’s Profession Gentleman Gazetted 14.01.14 Indian Army (attached 1st Bn Royal Sussex Regiment) 2nd Lieutenant F I S Tuker On Unattached list for Indian Army Commissioned 14th January 1914 Wilson Robert Hamilton Birch Date of Birth 20.05.95 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.02.13 Left College 05.07.14 Father’s Profession Civil Engineer C.I.E. Gazetted 08.08.14 Indian Army Whistler Aubrey Rivett Date of Birth 07.07.94 Admitted to Sandhurst 12.02.14 Left College 05.07.14 Father’s Profession Colonel Gazetted 08.08.14 Indian Army STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF CASUALTIES “D” COMPANY, ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE SANDHURST , MAY 1913 Total Students 64 Total Instruction Staff 7 Total Killed in the Great War 1914 13 20.3% 1915 03 4.6% 1916 03 4.6% 1917 01 1.5% 1918 03 1.5% TOTAL 23 35.9% Total Killed in the 2nd World War 1940 01 1941 01 1942 01 1944 01 TOTAL 04 6.2% Grand total 24 42.1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 I'll look this evening, but Tuker (I assume) was the chap who went on to command 4th Indian Division in the second lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 This was the fate of Benjamin Going WHITE (or Goring as C.W.G.C. would have it) http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2528427/WHITE, BENJAMIN GORING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 Name Aylmer Lochiel Cameron Born 2 Nov 1895 Trimul Guerrey, INDIA Died 1982 Dorset, ENGLAND Father Ewan Duncan Cameron, b. 1869, Woodchurch, Tenterden, Kent, ENGLAND d. Bef 1917 (Age 48 years) Mother Letitia Emily Catherine Hight, b. 10 Apr 1864, d. 1953, Hastings, Sussex, ENGLAND (Age 88 years) Married 19 Mar 1889 St Marks, Bangalore, INDIA Family Lowis Mary M. Rugge-Price, b. 2 Oct 1911, IRELAND d. 1990, Dorset, ENGLAND (Age 78 years) Married 1932 Wimborne, Dorset, ENGLAND Notes Passenger Lists; 1931 - Liverpool to Bostson 1936 October - England to New York (With Lowis) 1936 December - New York to England (With Lowis) England, Dorset, Parish Registers Name Aylmer Lochiel Cameron Event Type Burial Event Date 07 May 1982 Event Place Winterborne-Zelstone, Winterborne-Zelstone, Dorset, England Age 86 Birth Year (Estimated) 1896 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 10 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 10 August , 2016 Many thanks,appreciated Mr B I have no idea about Tuker anything else will be apreciated Harry, That changes the WW 2 stats, thanks for the lead. Ray, anything at all on his military service? regardS David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 Only a couple of L/G/ entry's so far THE LONDON GAZETTE, 7 AUGUST, 1914 UNATTACHED, FOR INDIAN ARMY, With a view to their appointment to the Indian Army: — Anthony Aloysius Emmanuel Filose. Alexander Donald Powys Campbell. Oliver Babington. Macau.sland. Hubert Thomas de la Motte. Alan Robert,Lloyd Tucker. Brian Kingsley Dymott. Michael Rookherst Roberts» Arthur Hugh Hamilton Eice. Aylmer Lochiel Cameron. SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 1 JANUARY, 1917. page 31 TO BE AWARDED THE MILITARY CROSS 2nd Lt. (temp. Lt.) Aylmer Lochiel Cameron, R.F.A SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE- 1919. 6817 AWARDED THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE ORDER Lt. (A./Maj.) Aylmer Lochiel Cameron, M.C., B/58th Bde., R.F.A Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesmessenger Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 David This link will give you a lot about Tuker and maybe one or two others as well:: http://www.unithistories.com/officers/IndianArmy_officers_T01.html Charles M- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 10 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 10 August , 2016 Again thanks, again appreciated david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 This is the progress of Benjamin Going WHITE per the London Gazette. Forgive me for not posting links, this will be quicker for me! Issue 28792 of 13.1.1914 page 337 To be 2nd Lt. with a view to appointment to the Indian Army 14.1.1914 Issue 29098 of 12.3.1915 page 2516 Appointed 2nd Lt., 7th Gurkha Rifles 12.10.1914 Issue 30236 of 17.8.1917 page 8458 Lt. to rank from 1.9.1915 Issue 30453 of 1.1.1918 page 176 2nd Bn. Gurkha Rifles, attached from 1st Bn. and to be acting Capt. whilst commanding a company 16.3.1917 Issue 30992 of 5.11.1918 page 13010 Relinquished the acting rank of Capt. on ceasing to command a company 15.1.1918 (The Army list gives the date 13.1.1918) Issue 31013 of 15.11.1918 page 13499 Lt. to be Capt. 14.1.1918 Issue 32719 of 13.6.1922 page 4485 Capt. (temp Maj.) Administrative Commandant 8 March to 6 June 1919 Issue 33802 of 26.2.1932 page 1298 Capt. to be Maj. 14.1.1932 Issue 34547 of 2.9.1938 page 5610 Maj. to be Lt.-Col. 22.7.1938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 From the 1919 Indian Army List, references to those not already mentioned. Curtis, Captain, MC MiD x 3 45th Rattray's Sikhs Fullerton. Captain, 41st Dogras, oc Coy at NCO School, Rawalpindi Harding, A/Capt, 13th Lancers (Watson's Horse) Roberts, Captain, 1/113th Infantry , attached 2/113th. Commanding a station at Gyantse in the 8th (Lucknow) Division District Searle, Captain, MC, MiD x 3 1/97th Deccan Infantry Whistler, Captain, 10th Lancers (Hodson's) Wilson, Captain 9th Gurkha Rifles, Officiating as Quartermaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 10 August , 2016 Share Posted 10 August , 2016 By the way, the comment about later attachment to British units: don't forget that all officers commissioned into the Indian Army had to spend a year with a British unit in India before going into the Indian service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 11 August , 2016 Share Posted 11 August , 2016 (edited) There are Indian Army Lists which may be downloaded from the Digital Library of India, as pdfs, although most are quite large files. See the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Indian Army List online. This website may be unavailable for days at times, due to maintenance. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php/Indian_Army_List_online Cheers Maureen Edit: Although the Digital Library of India is no longer operating, there are mirror versions of most of the files on Archive.org, see the above FIBIS Fibiwiki link. Edited 17 January , 2019 by Maureene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 11 August , 2016 Share Posted 11 August , 2016 Aylmer Lochiel CAMERON born 2.11.1895 died 2.6.1982 address - The Old Rectory, Anderson, Blandford Forum, Dorset. Although gazetted for the Indian Army he spent his entire military career with the Royal Artillery. London Gazette: Issue 28864 of 7.8.1914 page 6206 To be 2nd Lt. unattached, for the Indian Army 8.8.1914 Issue 29101 of 12.3.1915 page 2608 R.H. & R.F.A. To be 2nd Lt. from Unattached Indian Army List 16.3.1915 Issue 29649 of 30.6.1916 page 6570 To be Adjt. and temp. Lt. whilst so employed 6.3.1916 Issue 29886 of 29.12.1916 page 31 Awarded the M.C. 2nd Lt. (temp. Lt.) R.F.A. [New Year's Honours List] Issue 30173 of 6.7.1917 page 6849 To be Lt. 12.2.1917 Issue 30268 of 4.9.1917 page 9216 2nd Lt. (temp. Lt.) to be acting Capt. 3.7.1917 (Cannot understand this notification as he was promoted Lt. on 12.2.1917) Issue 30401 of 23.11.1917 page 12336 Another officer appointed to replace A. L. Cameron as Adjutant 18.7.1917 (The Army List gives the date as 2.7.1917. Apparently no gazette for A.L.C. vacating the appointment). Issue 30749 of 14.6.1918 7119 To be actg. Maj., Lt. (actg. Capt.), from 12th to 29th April 1918 when he reverts to the actg. rank of Capt. Issue 30861 of 23.8.1918 page 9885 Lt. (actg. Capt.) to be acting Maj. 3.7.1918 Issue 31370 of 3.6.1919 page 6817 Lt. (actg. Maj.) awarded the D.S.O. B/58th Bde. R.F.A. [King's Birthday Honours List] Issue 31918 of 25.5.1920 page 5914 Lt., relinquished the actg. rank of Maj. 23.3.1919 Issue 33122 of 8.1.1926 page 214 Lt. to be Instructor at the School of Equitation 21.12.1925 Issue 33126 of 22.1.1926 page 536 Notification of secondment to the School of Equitation Issue 33166 of 28.5.1926 page 3455 To be Capt. 2.3.1926 with Regimental Seniority 15.4.1923 Issue 33622 of 4.7.1930 page 4186 Relinquished the appointment of Instructor at the School of Equitation 21.6.1930 Issue 33648 of 30.9.1930 page 5951 Restored to the establishment 22.9.1930 Issue 33955 of 30.6.1933 page 4383 To be Bt. Maj. 1.7.1933 Issue 34123 of 11.1.1935 page 302 Capt. and Bt. Maj., to be Chief Instructor at the School of Equitation 1.1.1935 Issue 34127 of 25.1.1935 page 613 Notification of secondment to the School of Equitation Issue 34178 of 9.7.1935 page 4438 To be Major and remain seconded 15.6.1935 Issue 34468 of 31.12.1937 pages 8188 and 8190 Relinquished the appointment of Chief Instructor at the School of Equitation and restored to the establishment 1.1.1938 Issue 34527 of 1.7.1938 page 4243 Major, retired on retired pay 2.7.1938 He was also twice M.I.D. in the Great War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 11 August , 2016 Share Posted 11 August , 2016 Maj.-Gen. Alfred Cyril CURTIS, C.B., D.S.O., M.C. died 13.10.1971 Jersey, Channel Islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 11 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 August , 2016 Thanks Harry. Best regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 John Parke Fullerton died at Bridge House, Hele, Bradford on Tone, Somerset on March 19 1977 Notice in The Times on Tuesday March 22 1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 A brief outline of Kenneth O'Brien Harding's career was published in the Dix, Noonan, Webb catalogue when his medals were sold in 2015 https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?auction_id=343&lot_id=264781 He was also A.D.C. to the Governor of the Punjab 1921 - 1923 (notes in the National Army Museum cataloguing of his uniform) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 Michael Rookhurst Roberts died at 24, Swallowfield Road, Reading on August 30 1977. An obituary was published in The Times on Friday September 2nd 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 Carleton Stuart SEARLE died in 1975 in Venice aged 79 years. From G.R.O. Deaths Abroad Index (1966 - 1994) No newspaper announcements found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 (edited) Capt. Robert Hamilton Birch Wilson, 2/9th Gurkha Rifles was killed in action on the N.W. Frontier on March 1st 1920. His death was announced in The Times on Saturday March 13th 1920. http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1438069/WILSON, ROBERT HAMILTON Edited 12 August , 2016 by HarryBrook Added C.W.G.C. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 Aubrey Rivett Whister of Matfield Gate, Matfield, Kent, died on January 8th 1963 at Kent and East Sussex Hospital, Tunbridge Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 12 August , 2016 Share Posted 12 August , 2016 Reference Roberts: according to Mullaly's history of the 10thGR, Roberst wrote the history of the 2/10th in the GW and commissioned a memorial tablet to those who fell in the campaign, together with a centrepiece for the Officers' Mess and several water colours of the topography of the ground. He also wrote much of the WW2 history of the regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 13 August , 2016 Share Posted 13 August , 2016 (edited) Aubrey Rivett Whistler London Gazette: 2nd Lt. from I.A. unattached list to be Lt. whilst serving with The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regt.) 13.3.1915 Issue 29189 of 11.6.1915 page 5637 2nd Lt. from unattached list I.A. to I.A.R.O. 1.9.1915 Issue 29328 of 15.10.1915 page 10169 Relinquished the temp. rank of Lt. 10.10.1915 (Army List confirms he served with The Royal Fusiliers 13.3.1915 to 10.10.1915) Issue 29518 of 23.3.1916 page 3163 Promoted Lt. 8.11.1916, attached 10th Duke of Cambridge's Own Lancers (Hodson's Horse) Issue 29904 of 16.1.1917 page 614 Rank of Lt. ante-dated to 1.9.1916 Issue 30236 of 17.8.1917 page 8459 Indian Army, promoted Capt. 8.8.1918 Issue 31206 of 28.2.1919 page 2871 Retired from Indian Army as Capt. 18.10.1923 Issue 32882 of 23.11.1923 page 8066 Territorial Army, Commands and Staff, Capt. A. R. Whistler, late Ind. Army to be Staff Capt. (temp.) 26.8.1939 Issue 34680 of 12.9.1939 page 6242 Date of relinquishing this appointment not found. Edited 13 August , 2016 by HarryBrook Corrected a gazette page number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 13 August , 2016 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2016 I am quite overwhelmed by the responses, thanks 'team'. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 13 August , 2016 Share Posted 13 August , 2016 Robert Hamilton Birch Wilson London Gazette after being gazetted to the Unattached List, Indian Army: 2nd Lt. from unattached list to be 2nd Lt. 114th Mahrattas 13.10.1914 Issue 29098 of 12.3.1915 page 2517 Promoted Lt. 9th Gurkha Rifles 8.11.1916 Issue 29904 page 16.1.1917 page 614 Rank of Lt. ante-dated to 1.9.1915 Issue 30236 of 17.8.1917 page 8459 2nd Bn. Gurkha Rifles, Lt. R. H. B. Wilson to be actg. Capt. while comdg. a Coy. 11.7.1917 Issue 30465 of 8.1.1918 page 497 9th Gurkha Rifles, Lt. (actg. Capt.) R. H. B. Wilson relinquishes his actg. rank on ceasing to comd. a Coy. 18.7.1918 Issue 31501 of 12.8.1919 page 10241 Note: The Army List states that he also held the actg. rank of Capt. whilst commanding a Company from 18.7.1918 to 7.8.1918 Indian Army, promoted Capt. 8.8.1918 Issue 31271 of 4.4.1919 page 4428 Mentioned in Despatches for Mesopotamia, Capt. 2/9th Gurkha Rifles Issue 31386 of 5.6.1919 page 7245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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