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D/21712 Pte Butler George Scawthon 5th Dragoons


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Gentlemen and ladies,

A long lost family photograph has surfaced, though the details I have been given do not show much in the line of information.

D/21712 Pte Butler George Scawthon, was born in Scawby, near Brigg, Lincolnshire in 1899 and died in the same area in 1983.

Being so young and not pleased at the call to arms, he was sent to serve with the Corps of Dragoons, the 5th Battalion. He was demobbed from the army Class "Z" A. Reserve on 01/05/1919.

Now, I have found his Corps of Dragoon's Medal Roll, from where the information I have was gleaned.
I don't seem to be able to find an MIC for him on Ancestry, however, the NA seem to have one in their index.

Plus, the photo has him in uniform which looks typaically Yeomanry/Cavalry but the cap badge is not recognised. Nothing shows for the 5th Dragoons that looks anything like the badge he was sporting.......any ideas on this?
Possibly, Tank Corps?

Any help in piecing together Butler's service and his unit's activity from the time he arrived with the 5th Dragoons.
Born in 1899, his time with the army was probably fairly short.

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Thank you, in anticipation.

Rick

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This photo was found along with the one of Butler George Scawthon.
The lad's included are not known but the lad with the General Service Corps cap bagde.
He was James Ernest Proctor 1892-1955 of Scawby, Brigg, Lincs.

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This what I thought, was it a natural progression, as it is today for Dragoon's to go to a tank unit?
Also, was there a new cap badge brought out by 1917-1918 depicting the new tanks?
I thought the Heavy Machine Gun Corps and MGC were the badges used.........
Thank you for you prompt reply, Alan.
 

Rick

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Couple of points.

 

The regiment was the 5th Dragoon Guards, not Dragoons (different sort of thing altogether), and never the 5th battalion (cavalry regiments were single entities). Enlistment was into a 'Corps of Dragoons', and men could be posted between any Dragoon Guard or Dragoon regiment. There was no 5th Dragoons. Cavalry regiment titles are a bit of a minefield.

 

The cap badge might (emphasise might) be the 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays): this was a laurel wreath with a crown on top and the word 'Bays' in old English script in the middle. It's difficult to say but that's what it looks more like to me. That and the cavalry-style bandolier leads me down that route.

 

If you can find an MIC that might clear it up.

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Nice one, Steven.
Not being familiar with these units, there is a bit of confusion.
No MIC on Ancestry, though a quick £3.75 to the NA got me a very basic MIC stating name, rank, number, unit of "5 D Gds." ref. CC/103 B10 and award of the BWM & VM as per the Medal Roll.

 

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The Scawthon MIC missing from Ancestry........
 

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"Bays" SPOT ON!
Cheers, Steven.
Hit the nail on the head.
:)
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Medal Roll.......

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  • 2 years later...
  • 2 years later...
On 19/11/2018 at 15:58, Guest said:

Hi 

George was my great great grandad 

any info would be appreciated 

regards 

Regimental source says he embarked for France on 4 September 1918.

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