Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 The attached photograph is of my great uncle, Frank Atkin, who was tragically killed in 1943, at a firing range near Weston Super Mare whilst training to go to Europe. I have no idea of the regiment or even a date. It could possibly have been taken between the wars, but I don't know. Any help from forum members is, as ever, gratefully received. Trev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Given he was 47 when he died in 1943 Id say (looking at him) ww1 is about right thats assuming this is him Rank: Warrant Officer Class II Trade: C.S.M. Date of Death: 21/02/1943 Age: 47 Regiment/Service: Home Guard 8th Somerset (Weston-super-Mare) Bn. Awards: M M Grave Reference: Sec. J.A. Grave 157. Cemetery: WESTON-SUPER-MARE CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of William and Sarah Atkin; husband of Jane Elinor Joyce Atkin, of Worle, Weston-super-Mare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 and if home guard aged 47 he prob wasnt training to go to the continent but he was the trainer NOTE the MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woollamc Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 There was a Frank Atkin who won the MM whilst serving with the King's Own Scottish Borderers, Edinburgh Gazette 22 October 1917. His service number was 11682 and he came from Chesterfield. There is a public family tree on Ancestry that includes him (with a photograph), showing his death in Somerset in 1943 and also recording that he born in Mansfield in 1897. That said, I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about the uniform in your photo. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrmh Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Should get an answer on the Victorian Wars Forum http://www.victorianwars.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Gents many thanks and that is, indeed him. I've attached another photo of him in his Borderers uniform. Any further info about the uniform in the above photo? Doesn't look Scottish to me? But as I've stated, I know nothing about it. Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Should get an answer on the Victorian Wars Forum http://www.victorianwars.com as he isnt Victorian in this picture (born circa 1897 and he looks older than 4) why would you ask there ? Or do they cover later periods to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2016 As an add on, I can't find the Edinburgh Gazette entry for his MM. Any help please? Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woollamc Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Here you go: Edinburgh Gazette. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2016 C, Marvellous, many thanks, Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Or if you prefer the London Gazette version https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30340/supplement/10715 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrmh Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 (edited) A thread running on the Victorian site of a very similar, if not the same, uniform. Army Service Corps http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6683 Edited 3 June , 2016 by Jrmh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepoy Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 A thread running on the Victorian site of a very similar, if not the same, uniform. Army Service Corps http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6683 I agree that the uniform is that of the Army Service Corps. Sepoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Guys, Many thanks, Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woollamc Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 When did they stop using that type of hat? I read in a post somewhere else that they were abolished in around 1901 - that being the case, the photograph must be of someone other than the Frank Atkin who was born in 1896-7 and died, aged 47, in 1943. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 June , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2016 When did they stop using that type of hat? I read in a post somewhere else that they were abolished in around 1901 - that being the case, the photograph must be of someone other than the Frank Atkin who was born in 1896-7 and died, aged 47, in 1943. C Good point!! Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 3 June , 2016 Share Posted 3 June , 2016 Certainly is Army Service Corps, who would have continued to wear the "pork pie" cap until the introduction of the Broderick forage cap and they may have still worn it in undress. The KOSB number(11682) is also interesting as it was issued sometime between April 1913 and January 1914, so it appears that he may have transferred from the A.S.C. to the K.O.S.B. at some time - unless as already stated, we're looking at two different people, as he would have only been 18yrs of age in 1914, if born in 1896. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 October , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 October , 2016 I believe I may have cleared up the matter with the OP photograph. It would appear that it is a "studio" portrait, as his mother wanted a photo of Frank in uniform before he was posted. Not having a uniform with him, he went into a studio, liked the look of what was hanging up and the rest, they say, is history! Well, that's what I've been told anyway! Frank won his MM on the 16th of August 1917, at Passerelle. Two days later, his CSM, John Skinner, won his VC. Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droberts Posted 3 October , 2016 Share Posted 3 October , 2016 2 hours ago, Trev2386 said: I believe I may have cleared up the matter with the OP photograph. It would appear that it is a "studio" portrait, as his mother wanted a photo of Frank in uniform before he was posted. Not having a uniform with him, he went into a studio, liked the look of what was hanging up and the rest, they say, is history! Well, that's what I've been told anyway! Frank won his MM on the 16th of August 1917, at Passerelle. Two days later, his CSM, John Skinner, won his VC. Trev Good job they didn't have a Field Marshals uniform. Looks like he is wearing spurs as well. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev2386 Posted 3 October , 2016 Author Share Posted 3 October , 2016 4 hours ago, droberts said: Good job they didn't have a Field Marshals uniform. Looks like he is wearing spurs as well. David Knowing the family history quite well now, it probably crossed his mind!! Trev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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