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Capt. Albert Edgar Kemp was awarded the M.C. for his actions at Hill 41, near Dadizeele serving with Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Can any member help with details for his actions on this date? War diary details for this time may give details if any member can help it would be very much appreciated.

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Peter

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This is the London Gazette notification for the award. I do not know if this is what you were looking for. Interesting to note that he also awarded the D.C.M. earlier.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31480/supplement/9745

Edit: The above is for the citation, the award was first announced in Gazette issue 31183 of 14.2.1919 page 2376

The gazette notification gives his Regt. as 2nd Bn. Royal Irish Rifles, so on temp. attachment to the Royal Dublin Fusiliers? Which Battalion?

His D.C.M. with 2nd Worcesters may be of interest.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29042/supplement/574

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Hi Harry

Many thanks for your reply and MC citation lead in LG. His MIC gives 7th Bn. Roy. Dub. Fus. but I don't know for sure if he was serving with them when his actions on 1.10.18 won him his award of MC and he may have won the award with 2nd Bn. Roy. Irish Rifles. I had hoped the war diary would help but which war diary? I see on my original posting I missed out date apologies for that. Again many thanks for your help.

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Peter

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The 2nd Battalion RIR War Diary has at the end of October 1918 a list of casualties ("The following casualties amongst Officers occured during the month") which includes "Captain AE Kemp DCM Wounded In Action"

Mike

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The London Gazette notifications show that he was serving with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers at the time of the action on 1.10.1918. The Gazettes go as follows:-

He was gazetted, 2nd Lt., into the Royal Irish Rifles 19.7.1915

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29279/supplement/8622

His name was corrected -

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29287/page/8874

Promoted Lt. in Royal Irish Rifles 30.5.1916

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29699/supplement/7861

He was then appointed acting Capt. in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers whilst commanding a Company 22.10.1917. (later Gazettes refer to a Service Battalion of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers) (7th Bn. was a (Service) Bn.)

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30546/supplement/2580

He relinquished the acting rank of Capt. on ceasing to command a Co. of the Royal Dub. Fus. on 26.12.1917, and re-appointed actg. Capt. to command a Co. of the Royal Dub. Fus. 13.1.1918

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30625/supplement/4424

He received a backdated promotion to Temp. Capt., whilst serving with Royal Dub. Fus., dated 16.9.1917

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30700/supplement/6088 heading on page 6087

He relinquished the temp. rank of Capt. on ceasing to be employed with a Service Bn. [of the Royal Dub. Fus.] 3.10.1918. He would have reverted to the rank of Lt. on returning to the Royal Irish Rifles establishment.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31202/supplement/2812

The fact that he was on the establishment of the 2nd Bn. Royal Irish Rifles, effective 3.10.1918, would probably explain why he is recorded on that Bn's. casualty list at the end of October.

He retired on 30.3.1920 receiving a gratuity and granted the rank of Capt.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31839/supplement/3746

So it looks like a check of the war diary of the 7th Bn. Royal Dublin Fusiliers might be the first call.

Edit:- Forget the 7th Bn. R.D.F. War Diary it does not exist. It gets even more confusing - the entry for 7th (Service) Battalion, The Royal Dublin Fusiliers in Brig. E.A. James's "British Regiments 1914 - 1918" reads as follows (verbatim).

Formed at Naas Aug.1914 - K1 - to the Curragh in 30th Bde. 10th Div. Feb. 1915 Dublin. May 1915 to England at Basingstoke. Subsequent record same as 6th Bn. until April 1918. Then left 10th Div. and went to France embarking at Alexandria on 23 May and arriving 1 June. 6.6.18 reduced to cadre and surplus personnel to 2nd Bn. 10.6.18 cadre to 16th Div. at Samer, returned to England and on 18.6.18 was absorbed by the newly formed 11th Bn. Royal Irish Fusiliers at Greatham, Durham.

[so at 1.10.1918 7th Bn. R. Dub. Fus. did not exist.]

The relevant bit of the 6th Bn. entry after Basingstoke reads - 11.7.15 sailed from (?)Devonport to Mitylene. 7.8.15 landed at Suvla Bay. Oct. 1915 to Salonika. Sept. 1917 to Egypt and Palestine. 27.5.18 left 10th Div. for France.

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Hi Mike and Harry

Thank you both for your help.

Harry your help most appreciated just hope Ancestry have the war diary.

Regards

Peter

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Kemp Capt. Albert Edgar mc, dcm. Born at Jubbulpore, West Bengal, India, 30.7.1890, baptized 22.8.1890, the son of John Albert and Jane Kemp. Enlisted at Birmingham. The 1911 Census shows him as 10968 L/Cpl Edgar Kemp, 2nd Worcester Regt attached 2nd East Lancashire Regt, in India. Married Harriet A. Gill at Dorking in 1915. Embarked for France as a L/Sgt with 2nd Worcestershire Regt 13.8.1914. DCM, London Gazette 16.1.1915: ‘Acting-Sgt A.E. Kemp. For conspicuous gallantry and ability on 31st October at Gheluvelt, in the control of his men during the very critical engagement which resulted in the recapture of the village.’ The depleted 2nd Worcs was the only reserve available for the counter-attack at Gheluvelt, which was successful, plugged the gap and prevented the Germans breaking through to the Channel ports. Commissioned in the field 19.7.1915 for distinguished service. Wounded by shell fire, 2.10.1915, while serving with 2nd RIR. Promoted Lt. RDF 30.5.1916, and Capt. 16.9.1917. Employed with 7th RDF. It is not known when he returned to 2nd RIR but he was with C Coy in August 1918. Wounded 1.10.1918. MC, London Gazette 29.7.1919: ‘For gallantry and devotion to duty south of Dadizeele on October 1st, 1918. He was commanding a company in the attack, during which he was wounded through both thighs. The situation being uncertain, and no officer being available to hand his command to, he refused to be evacuated until he was satisfied that all was in order. This necessitated his carrying on his duties for four hours after being wounded, when he was evacuated as a stretcher case.’ Address in 1919 was c/o Mr S. Hislop, Market Place, Rugeley; in 1921 it was 219 High Street, Aldershot. Closed file.

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