Cam_s Posted 19 April , 2016 Share Posted 19 April , 2016 Good Morning All, I am needed some info obtained from the NZ War Diaries regarding the lead up to the attack on La Basse Ville in Jul 1917. Unfortunately I am in Canada and can't make it to the archives in NZ. What would be the easiest way to obtain the information? I have found the finding aids for the war diaries but they aren't easily searchable. Does anyone know a researcher who is good and knows them inside and out? Thanks, Cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 19 April , 2016 Share Posted 19 April , 2016 Hi Cam. It would be better if we knew which diary in particular you are looking for. There are several online ie http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/AWM4/35/ and Regimental histories here http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/facets/search?document=&corpus=&searchtext=war+diary&submit=Search Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 19 April , 2016 Share Posted 19 April , 2016 Archway and probably free. https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/SimpleSearchResults.do TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam_s Posted 19 April , 2016 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2016 Thanks Guys, I am specifically looking for the daily records for the 1st NZ Bde and supporting units in front of La Basse Ville in the lead up to the attack at the end of Jul 17. The AWM site has records but none are for the units/dates involved for what I am looking for. I have seen the archway website but I can't find the actual records online. The only thing I found was the finding aid listing all of the records. Cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 19 April , 2016 Share Posted 19 April , 2016 Think Grahame is right with awm site. Can't find them on Archway. They are in AWM4 class35. Can't say I can find what you're after though. https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/RCDIG1018430/ TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam_s Posted 19 April , 2016 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2016 None of those actually contain the information I am after. They are all pre-17 for the European Theatre and don't have all of the units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 23 July , 2017 Share Posted 23 July , 2017 Hi Cam What Regiment do you want, I have the 3rd Canterbury Infantry Regiment diaries, the 3rd Canterbury were floating around Ploegsteert, Warneton, La Basse Ville and Pont Rouge May to August 1917. Happy to email them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walbeer Posted 31 July , 2017 Share Posted 31 July , 2017 Cher Cam, voici une réponse en français, sorry. Ce matin 31 JUILLET 2017 à 10h30 belgium times une cérémonie aura lieu a la BASSE-VILLE ( Warneton) Madame Dominique Cooreman inaugure une plaque du souvenir concernant la bataille de la Basse-Ville plus de 1000 soldats (beaucoup de Maoris sont morts et presque oubliés pour l'histoire!!!!. Madame Cooreman édite un livre sur cette " Bataille de la Basse-Ville " en anglais. Voir la référence sur la page Facebook : basseville1917. Salutations, Walbeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walbeer Posted 31 July , 2017 Share Posted 31 July , 2017 Page Facebook : la basse-ville 1917. (rectificatif) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam_s Posted 4 August , 2017 Author Share Posted 4 August , 2017 Thanks for the link. I was actually in Warneton on 20 Jul this past year and had quite a good time driving around the area and looking at the sights. Wendy - Thanks for the offer but I stopped at the National Archives in London and grabbed the July War Diaries for the entire New Zealand division. I found lots of good information but thanks again for the nice offer. Cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 5 August , 2017 Share Posted 5 August , 2017 4 hours ago, Cam_s said: Thanks for the link. I was actually in Warneton on 20 Jul this past year and had quite a good time driving around the area and looking at the sights. Wendy - Thanks for the offer but I stopped at the National Archives in London and grabbed the July War Diaries for the entire New Zealand division. I found lots of good information but thanks again for the nice offer. Cam Ok great stuff, glad you got it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Groughan Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 On 4/20/2016 at 01:29, Cam_s said: Thanks Guys, I am specifically looking for the daily records for the 1st NZ Bde and supporting units in front of La Basse Ville in the lead up to the attack at the end of Jul 17. The AWM site has records but none are for the units/dates involved for what I am looking for. I have seen the archway website but I can't find the actual records online. The only thing I found was the finding aid listing all of the records. Cam G'day all, I am new to this forum. I had quite a few great uncles and other relos from New Zealand involved in the conflicts. One of which I only became aware of yesterday, Herbert Sullivan Carter of the 2nd Btn Wellington Rgmt NZEF and I have very few details apart from his death on July 31, 1917. Which from what I have read they would have been at La Basse Ville fighting at that time. Does anyone have any other details that I might be able to research. Thanks in advance. I'm loving reading the posts on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 9 minutes ago, Brian Groughan said: G'day all, I am new to this forum. I had quite a few great uncles and other relos from New Zealand involved in the conflicts. One of which I only became aware of yesterday, Herbert Sullivan Carter of the 2nd Btn Wellington Rgmt NZEF and I have very few details apart from his death on July 31, 1917. Which from what I have read they would have been at La Basse Ville fighting at that time. Does anyone have any other details that I might be able to research. Thanks in advance. I'm loving reading the posts on the forum. Hi Brian Did you get a copy of the Wellington Regiment 1914-1919 from the library or available at NZETC their bandwidth is shocking and you can't always get in. The back of the Canterbury Regiment book has a roster of all the regiments in the trenches in front in support and in reserve. Will have a look tonight I have loads of trench maps of area if you haven't found them in the McMasters University map room yet. Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Groughan Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 Thank you Wendy I will check it out. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 3 hours ago, Brian Groughan said: Thank you Wendy I will check it out. Brian Are you in New Zealand? Papers Past Herbert Carter service file Herberts cenotaph page includes troopship information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 Do you have a photo of Herbert?? Onward Project New Zealand War Graves project you can contribute stories and photos to this project. Another really great book to read is the New Zealand Medical Service in the Great War 1914 -1918 It gives you more in depth information about the action, conditions. casilities. I find it really insightful. Wellington Regiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 I just found that I have the 2nd Wellington diary for July 1917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wendy Macpherson Posted 11 January , 2018 Share Posted 11 January , 2018 (edited) Brian - Sorry some of these images are not clear, you may still be able to make them out. I also have some cracking aerial photos of the offencive. I think they are to big to post here but will try. PM me if you want a email copy of any of this sent to you. Edited 11 January , 2018 by Wendy Macpherson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Groughan Posted 12 January , 2018 Share Posted 12 January , 2018 Thank you again Wendy, It is hard to believe with the actions that went on within this area through the war was somewhat left in the past as it sounds as though there were quite significant battles happening and like a lot of other areas a very heavy casualty rate. With the links you have added I will be able to hopefully check how other members of the Carter family fared as I had 4 great uncles, William, Alfred, Bob & Harry from the one family who all went to war as well with a bit more detail. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 12 January , 2018 Share Posted 12 January , 2018 The Ploegsteert, Warneton and La Bass Ville area was held by the Kiwis and Aussies and then they were called to the Somme and the entire sector was handed back to the other side. Very sad as men like Herbert and my great uncle Leonard who died 14 days after Herbert in the August died in vein. These are photos of the Sugar Beet factory at La Bass Ville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Macpherson Posted 12 January , 2018 Share Posted 12 January , 2018 Postcard from my private collection 'Germans at La Basse ville' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffMcN Posted 12 January , 2018 Share Posted 12 January , 2018 Thank you for posting these files and photos up, Wendy. I have to say that I always regard La Basse-Ville as yet another of Godley's self-aggrandizing schemes, seeking self-glory with the blood of others. The comment in Stewart (p235) about Plumer stepping in to postpone the second attempt on it (planned for 28 July) to 31 July is revealing. On another note, the postcards are fascinating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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