Service record, Pembroke I man who died in Scotland

[GrenPen]

I am researching an RNVR man, George Archard, and find myself a little confused.

He had been a telegraphist, and had served on two Dover Patrol trawlers, the "Simpson" and the "James Pond".
His service record shows him as "Pembroke I" from 2 March 1918 to his death on 5 November 1918.

From what I have been able to gather, there was an RNAS station near Stranraer, and there was a naval presence at Lamlash / Ardrossan, where HMS Pactolus was the depot ship for the auxiliary vessel patrol flotilla, Captain Alexander Wright being the senior naval officer.

I have come across the following from the forum:

Pembroke 1 was an accounting base, which meant that the man could be serving anywhere in the country. It was an administrative device for naval clerks.

Would it be the case that any central support staff at Ardrossan, be they clerks or telegraphists, would be a sub-account under the general code for Pembroke 1? I would have assumed that if he had been sent to Ardrossan, that he would have been on the books of the Pactolus.

Does this make sense to anyone who is more experienced with naval records than I?

Regards

[rolt968]

According to his death certificate, he was a wireless operator at Portpatrick wireless station.

Roger M

[horatio2]

This man was one of the survivors of the sinking of HMT JAMES POND on 14/15 February 1918. From her parent ship ATTENTIVE III he was drafted as a supernumerary (List 14) to the barracks at Chatham. The record shows no evidence of a draft to PACTOLUS (or anywhere else - such a draft to a tender to HMS PEMBROKE would normally be recorded as PEMBROKE (Nonsuch)). Staff at Ardrossan would almost certainly have been borne on the books of PACTOLUS, not PEMBROKE. It is odd, however, that he should die in hospital at Stranraer when he was a London Division RNVR rating and is buried in London. Perhaps he fell ill when on a leave visit to Scotland or, possibly on a temporary detachment there.

Edit: Roger M has found the answer. Since Portpatrick W/T does not appear on his record, there is no way of telling when he first served there.

Edited 17 April , 2016 by horatio2

[rolt968]

This man was one of the survivors of the sinking of HMT JAMES POND on 14/15 February 1918. From her parent ship ATTENTIVE III he was drafted as a supernumerary (List 14) to the barracks at Chatham. The record shows no evidence of a draft to PACTOLUS (or anywhere else - such a draft to a tender to HMS PEMBROKE would be recorded as PEMBROKE (Nonsuch)). Staff at Ardrossan would almost certainly have been borne on the books of PACTOLUS, not PEMBROKE. It is odd, however, that he should die in hospital at Stranraer when he was a London Division RNVR rating and is buried in London. Perhaps he fell ill when on a leave visit to Scotland or, possibly on a temporary detachment there.

He died of Lobar Pneumonia which had lasted five days in Garrick Hospital. The death was registered by his father, but it does not indicate that he had been present at the time of death. He would have had to be present in Stranraer to register the death.

Roger M

[GrenPen]

Many thanks for helping to get this resolved quickly. Roger, I have PMed you.

Regards, GP

[S Hastings]

HMS Pactolus was a depot ship to Auxillary Patrol Zone XVII, based on The Clyde.

[rolt968]

On 17/04/2016 at 15:24, rolt968 said:

He died of Lobar Pneumonia which had lasted five days in Garrick Hospital. The death was registered by his father, but it does not indicate that he had been present at the time of death. He would have had to be present in Stranraer to register the death.

Roger M

I wonder if that should have been Carrick Hospital?

RM

[KizmeRD]

Carrick House Auxiliary Hospital, Ayr?

His father had travelled up from Bow in order to be at the bed-side of his sick son.

MB

Edited 12 February , 2021 by KizmeRD

[rolt968]

1 hour ago, KizmeRD said:

Carrick House Auxiliary Hospital, Ayr?

His father had travelled up from Bow in order to be at the bed-side of his sick son.

MB

I thik it just said "Carrick Hospital". I should have spotted that it was more likely to be "Carrick" than "Garrick" at the time.

RM