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TEW

Just for interest.

Looked through some interesting sounding TNA refs yesterday including MH106/2148 which is a set of medical cards to RFA men numbers 109740-109993. Small selection of 253 men but some had multiple cards charting their movement through FAs to CCS etc. UK and France/Flanders hospitals.

All seem to be Army forms, W3162, W3243a, W3118.

Picked one man at random as he had 10 cards. RFA 109824 John M Mcnulty. No WO363 or 364 on ancestry, nothing I can see on FMP. His only record seems to be his MIC, apart from this, apologies for one of his medical conditions, didn't spot that till this morning.

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David Porter

TEW,

Thanks for posting these cards. I knew about them but had only seen the Medical Sheets in the later sub-series.

They certainly are very useful if a service record is missing, as you have found with John McNulty.

The Medical Sheets cover a wider number range, but obviously not every number would have a sheet, so you have to take pot luck.

The full references for the Royal Field Artillery set are:

Subseries within MH 106 MEDICAL CARDS 1916-1920
Royal Field Artillery
MH 106/2140 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 7930-8039
MH 106/2141 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 8040-8178
MH 106/2142 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 27830-27999
MH 106/2143 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 28000-28089
MH 106/2144 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 48240-48399
MH 106/2145 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 48400-48559
MH 106/2146 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 76740-76853
MH 106/2147 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 76856-76979
MH 106/2148 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 109740-109993
MH 106/2149 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 109996-110269
MH 106/2150 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 179920-180219
MH 106/2151 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 180222-180599
MH 106/2152 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 256951-257539
MH 106/2153 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 257541-258149
MH 106/2154 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 775421-775754
MH 106/2155 Other ranks Regimental Nos. 775757-776149
MH 106/2156 Officers: Brace to Browell
MH 106/2157 Officers: Brown to Burgess
Subseries within MH 106 MEDICAL SHEETS 1916-1917
Royal Field Artillery
MH 106/2174 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 1900-1999
MH 106/2175 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 6900-7499
MH 106/2176 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 22500-22999
MH 106/2177 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 38300-38999
MH 106/2178 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 53000-54099
MH 106/2179 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 75800-76899
MH 106/2180 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 99400-100499
MH 106/2181 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 138621-143099
MH 106/2182 Other ranks Case Sheet No. 660000-680999
One can only hope that before too long they might feature online with full index.

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battiscombe

very interesting to know - and may also contain records for some prewar RFA regulars amongst lower numbers

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David26

Hi David,

do you know what records might exist for men whose numbers fall between the groupings listed (e.g. 8179 - 27829) ?

David

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David Porter

do you know what records might exist for men whose numbers fall between the groupings listed (e.g. 8179 - 27829) ?

David26,

As this was just a sample the medical information for those numbers was not kept. You have to resort to other means.

So you have to try service records, absent voters lists, local newspapers, soldiers effects registers etc.

Forces War Records are transcribing the Admission and Discharge books that are also in MH106. These are not complete either.

See https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/military-hospital-records

If they are not found by these means then you will have a difficult job, especially as some numbers are not unique and were used twice or more.

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TEW

TNA lists the service numbers for the groups it holds. Not sure why RFA prevails but:

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I also looked through MH106/2289 which was a box of (several hundred?) loose leaf sheets, same as you'd find in WO364, all RFA for Hospitals, FAs, CCS in UK, France, Italy, Egypt, Meso.

18/3/16, 23.26

CORRECTION - THIS WAS ACTUALLY MH106/2178. First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen, MEDICAL SHEETS 1916-1917. Royal Field Artillery

Plus one mis-sort for Royal Welsh Fusiliers 54078, Richard Fenn.

Another smaller set of cards for Leicestershire Regiment

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Well worth playing around with Discovery in MH106 with different search terms. You'll find Hussars, Marines, Nurses, RAF, RFC, Colonials, Officers, Camel Corps, YMCA, Persian Gulf RAF, Belgian civilians, Italian civilians.

Either a sample of medical sheets or Hospital admission and discharge registers, X-ray books, operation records/books.

TEW

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David Porter

I also looked through MH106/2289 which was a box of (several hundred?) loose leaf sheets, same as you'd find in WO364, all RFA for Hospitals, FAs, CCS in UK, France, Italy, Egypt, Meso.

This is indexed as:

War Office: First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen. MEDICAL SHEETS 1917-1920. Hospitals operating in the United Kingdom: Millbank.

TEW,

That is quite amazing. It is not until you open the box that you realise it is all RFA - the index should be modified.

In fact this is just surnames Sa - Sk as Discovery points out - the Millbank sheets run from MH106/2267 (A) to MH106/2284 (Whi - Y)

That is 28 boxes - all potentially RFA. Can you confirm all of the ones you looked at were surnames Sa - Sk ?

I'm excited by yet another untapped source.

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TEW

David

I'm going to have to double check that one.

I had a locker of advanced booked MH106 waiting for me on Tuesday and another for Wednesday. The power outage on Tuesday meant I had a very full locker on Wednesday! and it shut at 5 not 7 as planned.

I also ordered several more during Wednesday including one I must have mis-typed the reference for.

I only took one photo from the box I referred to (MH106/2289, I think) which was the mis-sort from the Royal Welsh Fusiliers. Will have to check that image against their catalogue and my advanced orders to see if I can be 100% sure it was 2289.

TEW

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David26

David,

thank you. That's really helpful.

David

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TEW

David,

The image I have is a mis-sort for a Royal Welsh Fusilier man, No. 54078 in Maghull. I'm sure now that I typoed an order for MH106/2148 as 2178 which are 'First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen'

Former ref is 'Case Sheet No. 53000-54099'. NB the mis-sort has a Regimental Number in that range. Presumably the other RFA sheets are also in that range?

Apologies for misleading, will correct original post.

TEW

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Hallaton1

Th MH106 files are fascinating and well worth a visit.

However, be warned the series of numbers for the cards does not always mean that every service number in that sequence will be there.

The medical sheets that I have viewed, Leicestershire regiment, are not as far as I am aware catalogued by number though they are filed as such. A box of these sheets will contain hundreds of records and take a long time to go through. I would say that you would need at least an hour to go through each box of files and that would be just for a quick look. The medical sheets are absolutely fascinating and sometimes contain xrays etc. The handwriting is typical of the medical profession at times and can be quite hard to make out!

The records for the Leicestershire Regiment do not contain all the records but only a percentage of those who served.

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David Porter

Pleased to find out that some of these files are being re-catalogued "to produce item level descriptions for the papers contained in a selection of these boxes".

Full descriptions for 1919 - 1923 are currently not being displayed, only basic details, but will be available after 100 years has passed.

 

See https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/discharged-to-duty-first-world-war-medical-records/

 

An example:

Citable Reference  
MH 106/2174/1      

Description  

Folio(s): 1. Name: Alfred Lyne. Rank: Gunner. Unit/Battalion/Regiment: 48 Battery, Royal Field Artillery. Service number: 1900. Age: 34. Date of Admission: 15/09/1915. Date of Discharge: 15/09/1915. Hospital(s): 1st Eastern General Hospital, Cambridge. Condition/Injury/Disease: VDH [Valvular Disease of the Heart]. Details and Outcome: Patient admitted suffering with VDH. Further details given. Sent before Medical Board and recommended for discharge. Outcome not stated. Includes a medical case sheet only. Number of Pages: 1.

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