scall38 Posted 10 January , 2016 Share Posted 10 January , 2016 (edited) I would be really interested if anyone can give me any information about this knife. Thanks Edited 10 January , 2016 by scall38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotsmac Posted 10 January , 2016 Share Posted 10 January , 2016 If you Google "M&D Canada 1915" as the search term (without the Quotes) you'll get 77,000 hits. Could be a long night Best Wishes Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted 11 January , 2016 Share Posted 11 January , 2016 It seems that the same on bayonets means "Militia & Defence" Source: http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 11 January , 2016 Share Posted 11 January , 2016 I have my Uncle's, which is identical and he was Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, then Machine Gun Corps. But other than that, "I know nothing" as Sgt Schult's would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 11 January , 2016 Share Posted 11 January , 2016 Is there a makers mark on the blade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGong Posted 11 January , 2016 Share Posted 11 January , 2016 The only other mark on mine is a "C" with an arrow inside the C as per Mars Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scall38 Posted 11 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 11 January , 2016 I will check in the morning and let you know thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 11 January , 2016 Share Posted 11 January , 2016 (edited) Hi All Looks like a WW1 rigging knife with the marlin spike but issued to all Canadian Forces up to 1960. The broad arrow within the C is the Canadian Military acceptance mark. M & D is Militia and Defence Pics on Google. Regards Barry Has it got" Thomas Turner & Co, Sheffield" on the base of the blade near the hinge? Edited 11 January , 2016 by The Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scall38 Posted 12 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2016 I am checking all this now. Please find attached the arrow sign surrounded by a circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 12 January , 2016 Share Posted 12 January , 2016 The only other mark on mine is a "C" with an arrow inside the C as per Mars Link. I am checking all this now. Please find attached the arrow sign surrounded by a circle. That is not a circle, but the mark as previously described by FG - the broad arrow within a C denoting Canadian Government property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 12 January , 2016 Share Posted 12 January , 2016 What is the same style Canadian clasp knife that doesn't have the manufacturers mark and date on the side scale ? khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42ndRHC Posted 13 January , 2016 Share Posted 13 January , 2016 Hi All Looks like a WW1 rigging knife with the marlin spike but issued to all Canadian Forces up to 1960. The broad arrow within the C is the Canadian Military acceptance mark. M & D is Militia and Defence Pics on Google. Regards Barry Has it got" Thomas Turner & Co, Sheffield" on the base of the blade near the hinge? A friend of mine collects Canadian issue Jacknives. He has at least three examples of pressed steel handled models all made by Thomas Turner and dated '14, '15, and '16. M&D is Militia and Defense. I have at least 2 British Issue 9494/1917 knives and they are identical to their Canadian cousins manufactured this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 14 January , 2016 Share Posted 14 January , 2016 What is the same style Canadian clasp knife that doesn't have the manufacturers mark and date on the side scale ? khaki Well, to answer my own question I had a close look at the blade and it is marked (MS LTD XX) which is a subsidiary company 'Metal Stampings of the well known Case knife company, They set up a company in Canada (Nova Scotia?) in 1948 and were in production to 1949 manufacturing folding knives for the Canadian military. This knife could be classified as that of the Korean War. The reason I give this information here is that it is almost identical to the Great War issue Canadian knife and recognizing the difference may be of use to members. the blade is broader, the lanyard ring is steel, it is not manufacturer marked on the scale but on the ricasso/flat of the blade. A very nice collectors knife but not GW. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 21 January , 2016 Share Posted 21 January , 2016 As referenced in my previous post. here is the (top) Canadian MS knife made in the late 1940's and below a GW Canadian 1915 model, note the similarity in overall appearance, with the exception of the broad blade, steel lanyard loop. lack of markings etc. khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reese williams Posted 21 January , 2016 Share Posted 21 January , 2016 Originally the two knives were almost identical. The narrow blade on the lower example is due to repeated sharpening of the blade. Not uncommon. Many of these knives were either carried home by their owners after service of bought surplus and used as working knives in civilian life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 22 January , 2016 Share Posted 22 January , 2016 I am sorry Reese, but I believe that you are mistaken in reference to the blades, the WW1 Canadian has the standard spear point blade of the Great War period and the later model has what's known as a 'sheepsfoot blade'. The blade on the the 1915 model has minimal sharpening and if you compare the exposed portion of the quillion (where the trade marks are) you can see that they are equal. If for example the cutting edge had been filed away it would have increased the open area of the quillion in proportion to the amount of metal removed. if the filing was done lets say on the forward 2/3rds of the cutting edge that would also be obvious. I compared the blades to many others and the sheepsfoot blade appears to be WW2 and later standard. regards khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reese williams Posted 22 January , 2016 Share Posted 22 January , 2016 Oh bu99er Khaki, you caught me being sloppy and working from memory rather than going to look. I'm getting old enough to know better. Went and looked in the bin and you are absolutely right. Here's a picture of a late model with a mostly untouched blade and a well sharpened WWI (1916) model. Thanks for keeping me honest Khaki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 23 January , 2016 Share Posted 23 January , 2016 No problem, working from memory is something I am guilty of, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, regards khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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