scall38 Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 (edited) I would be really interested in any thing members can give me relating to this pistol . I hope the markings are visible thanks Edited 26 December , 2015 by scall38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 The crowned 'Gothic' letters on the obverse are the so-called 'fraktur' marks, the 'Abnahmenstempel' of the inspectors, and of course you have a serial number on the reverse. But there should be a maker's stamp and year somewhere, and also possibly a unit marking. There is quite a lot of specialist literature on these and the short-barrelled ones - mainly in the US of A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 Commonly known as the 'artillery' model, looks like a nice example, magazine is missing. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scall38 Posted 26 December , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 December , 2015 Another picture of the stamps on the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaki Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 There is an endless amount of information on P08 's (Lugers) indeed to start talking about Lugers in detail would be a need to develop its own thread. In simple terms for the great war there was the standard model with a short barrel and the Artillery 8" & the Naval, can't remember the barrel length. The best idea is to get a technical book on Luger's with plenty of illustrations. here in the USA, its all about condition with Lugers, with some of them bringing many thousands of dollars. I am not in that league I prefer the battle used. here's my artillery, khaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyH Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 re. #4 this shows the makers mark for DWM - Duetsche Waffen-und Munitionsfabriken in Karlshuhe. The date of manufacture should be stamped on the receiver. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 26 December , 2015 Share Posted 26 December , 2015 The lever in front of the trigger guard on the left is for take-down. It's lost the knurled knob on its end. You hold back the toggle (still closed), typically with the right hand, then swing down the lever - you can then remove the side-plate with its bellcrank connecting the trigger to the spring button on the end of the sear. Turn the gun over and slide the bifurcated receiver off forward - the mainspring connector t-piece should drop out of its location in the rear toggle link. Then you can push out the rear toggle pivot pin and dismantle the subassembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins2 Posted 27 December , 2015 Share Posted 27 December , 2015 The lever in front of the trigger guard on the left is for take-down. It's lost the knurled knob on its end. You hold back the toggle (still closed), typically with the right hand, then swing down the lever - you can then remove the side-plate with its bellcrank connecting the trigger to the spring button on the end of the sear. Turn the gun over and slide the bifurcated receiver off forward - the mainspring connector t-piece should drop out of its location in the rear toggle link. Then you can push out the rear toggle pivot pin and dismantle the subassembly. also looks like a replacement part, number should be 63, I see 28/29? all parts should be stamped with serial number 9963 or the last two numbers thereof, 63, date of manufacture should be on breech end of barrel regards Bob R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scall38 Posted 27 December , 2015 Author Share Posted 27 December , 2015 Thanks date of manufacture 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 27 December , 2015 Share Posted 27 December , 2015 I cannot see any "Beschussstempel" on my Artillerieluger........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 27 December , 2015 Share Posted 27 December , 2015 I assume it has been deactivated???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 27 December , 2015 Share Posted 27 December , 2015 I assume it has been deactivated???? deactivated during combat. Can you see the jammed cartridge? For more details see here: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2493&p=19034 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 27 December , 2015 Share Posted 27 December , 2015 also looks like a replacement part, number should be 63, I see 28/29? all parts should be stamped with serial number 9963 or the last two numbers thereof, 63, date of manufacture should be on breech end of barrel regards Bob R. So I see - I didn't notice that. I should also say I think (IIRC) you need to retract the safety (so that 'gesichert' is no longer exposed) to allow the toggle to pass forward when stripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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