ejwalshe Posted 10 November , 2017 Share Posted 10 November , 2017 I need to visit more cemeteries of the Volksbund...I was kind of stunned to realize I have uploaded videos of all the Volksbund cemeteries I have visited, but perhaps only half of the CWGC cemeteries I have visited. I had wanted to upload a new Volksbund cemetery today, but had to settle for Passchendaele New British Cemetery (quite apropos given the date - Nov 10, 1917, last day of the Canadian offensive). There is a more of a natural, rather than cultivated beauty in these cemeteries (compared to the CWGC), and I find my feelings of loneliness, despair and sadness, flow more easily when I am not distracted by the amazing work of the CWGC employees in their cemeteries. Which is not to belittle in any way, the just as amazing work of the Volksbund volunteers. Beautiful to see us all united in a common cause, a hundred years later...to Remember Them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 11 November , 2017 Share Posted 11 November , 2017 15 hours ago, ejwalshe said: I need to visit more cemeteries of the Volksbund. hello from the Somme, if you want pictures of Germ. Cemeteries near where I live, just ask. It could be e.g. : Andechy, Montdidier kind regards, martine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceF Posted 11 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2017 Martine, if you are once close to the German cemetery in Morisel, it would be great if you could check Plot 5 grave 5 and took a photo of that grave. I am still wondering if Otto Fernand has two graves or if it is just a mistake in the Volksbund database. Best regards Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 11 November , 2017 Share Posted 11 November , 2017 2 hours ago, AliceF said: Martine, if you are once close to the German cemetery in Morisel, it would be great if you could check Plot 5 grave 5 and took a photo of that grave. I am still wondering if Otto Fernand has two graves or if it is just a mistake in the Volksbund database. Best regards Christine no problem, Christne, I'll do that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 11 November , 2017 Share Posted 11 November , 2017 @mva Martine, as you're already on your way to Morisel could I pester you for a picture of a headstone/cross there? Wilhelm Breunig Block 1, grave 322. He was the officer who wrote the letter detailing Fritz Limbach's death back in 1915 (Letter nr 90 in the blogspot in my signature) Merci mille fois! JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 12 November , 2017 Share Posted 12 November , 2017 @JWK @AliceF I'll be there on Monday, so you'll have the pictures on Tuesday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceF Posted 12 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2017 1 hour ago, mva said: F I'll be there on Monday, so you'll have the pictures on Tuesday ! That’s great! Thanks a lot! Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 @JWK @AliceF please send me your e mail address in a PM, so that I can forward the pictures ; btw : Alice : there is a cross with the name of Otto Fernand ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 (edited) There are strange crosses in Morisel : August PASCH : there was probably a soldier with this name, but when did he die ? But the name BOHSC is very strange : who was he, when did he die ? Edited 13 November , 2017 by mva mistake corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 You can find these strange names on most German cemeteries in France. That is because the French took care of the cemeteries shortly after the war. They didn't bother much about the correct spelling of the names. There was some time ago a thread here where several users managed to decipher and correct one of these names which was found out to be a rank or unit or something if I recall correctly. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 (edited) That's what I think too ; I even wondered if BOHSC could be read as 'Boche' ..... edit : Volksbund : "Max Bohsc ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Morisel. Endgrablage: Block 4 Grab 93" Edited 13 November , 2017 by mva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceF Posted 13 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2017 1 hour ago, mva said: Alice : there is a cross with the name of Otto Fernand ! Martine, Wow - do not know what to say! Thank you very much that you went to Morisel! I sent you a pm. Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 Bohsc is probably a misinterpretation of Boháč , a Czech surname And thank you for the pictures! JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 13 November , 2017 Share Posted 13 November , 2017 Or it could be Boße, Boßi, Boßk, Boßt or Boßy (all names from the Verlustlisten) as "hs" is another (old) way of writing "ß". Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PascalMallet Posted 27 November , 2017 Share Posted 27 November , 2017 Here are some news from Comines and St.-Laurent-Blangy... First of all, I visited again Comines cemetery and I saw flowers on that stone near the German monument. There were not put for Nov. 11th, but for Nov. 1st (all saints' day), as everyone here put that kind of flowers on their family grave. As I was at St.-Laurent German cemetery for Nov. 11th celebration, I shot few pictures. Three long buses full of people (maybe 200, elders and youngers) went first to German cemetery (on pictures, you can see French army and veterans honouring German WW1 soldiers), then by foot to an English cemetery near by, then back to town to celebrate French soldiers (then VDK is honouring too). Speeches and moving songs by school children (inside town hall, as it was much raining and freezing), including "La chanson de Craonne" written in 1915-1917 and which has been forbidden for many years (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Chanson_de_Craonne). Celebration continued with German, English, French, and European hymns... and of course a glass of champagne. I met there M. Lehmuller who works at SESMA (VDK French agency), and complain that name books are no more in cemetery box. He told me they take them away during winter because of humidity, but also to avoid thefts or depredations (pages can be torn or even burned...) They use a lot of money to replace those books. He also told me about stupid young people going in German cemetery to take silly pictures (even with a car !...) and to post them on Internet. To be continued... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PascalMallet Posted 27 November , 2017 Share Posted 27 November , 2017 In St.-Laurent-Blangy, as namebooks were not there during winter (but I got a hint for you: in some cities, there is a copy at town hall), I can't find all soldiers name I got on that picture of Comines cemetery dated 1915-1917. I found the ones who were readable on that picture ("+" means date of death, and "FC" means massgrave): – Kurt MELZER, +12/12/1915, grave 4/192. – Albert IRMSCHER, +03/11/1915, grave 4/568-569 (no name). – Paul LUKANNEK, +06/11/1915, grave 5/296. – Ignatz PLACHATTA**, +05/11/1915, grave 5/296. – Arthur KELLE or KELLER (I found Josef KELLER, +14/11/1915, grave 5/841). – Walter POSSELT, +05/11/1915, grave 5/897. – Paul WEIGELT, +07/11/1915, grave 5/899. – August KORNAS, +06/11/1915, grave 5/945. – Rudolph(f) BAUER, +27/08/1915, FC. – Christoph ANDRE, +13/09/1915, FC. ** @JWK I was very lucky to find that guy we were searching for, as his name is on same stone (not a cross) as Paul Lukannek! See below. I won't put all pictures there, but they are available on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hsokq6xtiljqlid/AADXVKzSfK6Oegz0P3FyqDgNa?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 27 November , 2017 Share Posted 27 November , 2017 Thank you very much for all your efforts and for the report of French-German commemoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceF Posted 28 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Pascal, thanks a lot for sharing your experiences in Comines and St.-Laurent-Blangy with the photos! Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 I could use some help with this one: Halpegarbe German cemetery. In fact, there were two! I ran across this in the Burial Returns for Cabaret Rouge British Cemetery, there was a body originally buried by the Germans in "Halpegarbe German Cemetery" It was removed to Wicres Curchyard in error by the Etat Civil in August 1921 (there are 3 BS, and 1 UBS in Wicres today). Body was recorded on G.B. List 347/1 (SSP/4995/556.) According to webmatters: Halpegarbe German Cemetery, Illies, in the hamlet of Halpegarbe, which contained the graves of eight soldiers from the United Kingdom. (There was another on the South side of the hamlet.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Hello, There were indeed two cemeteries there, they are both on my map of the German cemeteries in the 6. Armee sector. One of the cemeteries is visible on trench map 36 SW (you can see this on the trench map collection of the National Library of Scotland), the other cemetery was northeast of the Chemin de la Malfrette and the Rue du Biez crossroads. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Could you give me the GPS coordinates for both, Jan? I also just ran across Le Sars German Military Cemetery, also in the Cabaret Rouge Burial Return file. 57c.m.15.d.5.3 is at 50.0705, 2.7775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Ferin German Extension found in Cabaret Rouge Burial Returns. 57c.m.15.d.5.3 is at 50.0705, 2.7775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Remy German Military Cemetery Found in Cabaret Rouge BRs 51b.o.18.a.2.3 is at 50.2568, 2.9554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Frasnoy German Military Cemetery Found in Cabaret Rouge Burial Returns 51b.m.2.d.6.1 is at 50.2657, 2.7588 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejwalshe Posted 28 November , 2017 Share Posted 28 November , 2017 Not sure if this was a German cemetery, I suspect it was as it is behind the lines and near another German Military cemetery at Ervillers German Military Cemetery 57c.b.19.a.5.8 Found in Cabaret Rouge Burial Returns 57c.b.13.c.9.6 is at 50.1628, 2.8218 Ervillers German Military Cemetery II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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