DrB Posted 19 November , 2004 Share Posted 19 November , 2004 Here is my most recent head-scratcher...I have seen, and read, on this forum the pictures and discussion of the crossed picks and shovels worn as collar badges. My question is this. Were they met to be worn by the Labour Corps only or were they also worn by the infantry regiments designated as "pioneers" for the various Infantry divisions? There seems to be a discrepancy as to which outfit should wear them. Either, or, or both? Thanks. DrB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 19 November , 2004 Share Posted 19 November , 2004 Hi The collar dogs ( crossed picks and rifles ) were worn by Pioneer Battalions of Infantry Regiments. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 19 November , 2004 Share Posted 19 November , 2004 I believe the Pick & Rifle was also worn as a Cap Badge by the Labour Corps[Ref:K & K},in the same form as the Pioneer Battalions Collar Dogs,{Prior to the Instigation of the Pioneer Corps Badge of the 1940s} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 I believe the Pick & Rifle was also worn as a Cap Badge by the Labour Corps[Ref:K & K},in the same form as the Pioneer Battalions Collar Dogs,{Prior to the Instigation of the Pioneer Corps Badge of the 1940s} Hi I thought the Labour Corps Cap Badge was a laurel wreath over the top of crossed rifle, pick and shovel with a crown on top and the motto Labour. Omnia. Vincit (work conquers all) underneath. I am sure that this was the badge that was later adopted by the Auxillary Military Pioneer Corps in 1939. I will try to dig out a picture later. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 Ivor Lee has a picture of the Labour Corps cap badge on his website www.geocities.com/labour_corps/ Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted 20 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 20 November , 2004 "Thank you" to hmsk212 and Harry Betts for your answers. That question had had me scratching my head for quite a while. DrB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 I thought the Labour Corps Cap Badge was a laurel wreath over the top of crossed rifle, pick and shovel with a crown on top and the motto Labour. Omnia. Vincit (work conquers all) underneath. I am sure that this was the badge that was later adopted by the Auxillary Military Pioneer Corps in 1939. I dont think this Badge was worn {as a Cap badge,though it may have been the Regimental badge} during the WW1 period.No reference to it is made in Kipling & King WW1 era. Volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 The Pick & Shovel collar badge referred to was worn only by Pioneer Bns of Infantry Regiments. The Labour Corps wore 2 cap badges during WW1. From 1917 to 1918 they wore the General Service Cap badge as shown below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 From 1918 onwards the Labour Corps wore the badge worn by the Pioneer Corps as below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 However most men transferring to the Labour Corps from Infantry and other units retained their original cap badge. Such as the group below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 Wrists duly slapped!!I stand corrected~Where have you been Ian Ive missed You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 20 November , 2004 Share Posted 20 November , 2004 All these men belonged to the same Labour Company and are named. Hope this answers your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 21 November , 2004 Share Posted 21 November , 2004 Wrists duly slapped!!I stand corrected~Where have you been Ian Ive missed You! Now now - if I wanted to know anything about the Cambridgeshire Regt I would ask you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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