Red Rose Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Like so many of the Bristish sport clubs, the men of Oldham Rugby League, or ‘Northern Union’, Club as it was then known, joined up in vast numbers to answer the ‘call’ in the First World War. In all over 40 of the current players and officials would “join up” between 1914 and 1918 as well as many who had once played for the club. Eleven were destined to ‘fall’ during the conflict including 3 Scots, two of whom were brothers, 2 Welshmen, a West country man and a Cumbrian, along with the local lads from Oldham and Manchester. The experience of these individuals varied greatly; Nanson and Thomas were internationals whereas, Scott and Mills only played a handful of matches between them. However, all of them swapped the red and white hoops for the khaki. Although I have collected some information and imagery relevent to the players listed below, any extra help would be much appreciated. Cpl. T.O. JONES - Thomas Owen Jones 20970, 9th Bn., Welsh Regiment. KIA on 20th September 1917 Age 30. Tyne Cot Memorial. Sgt. H.C. MILLS - Herbert Cecil Mills 375928, 2nd/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. KIA 7th October 1917 Age 22 Buried: Menin Road South Cemetery Pte. D. SHANNON – Daniel Shannon S/15796, 7th Bn., Cameron Highlanders. KIA 25th September 1915 Age 29. Loos Memorial Sgt. J. SCOTT – John (Jack) Scott59867, 21st Bn., Canadian Infantry. KIA 8th April 1916 Age 24 Menin Gate Memorial Sgt. A.D. WEST - Arthur Douglas West 52763, 1st Bn., The King's (Liverpool Regiment) KIA 15th November 1916 Buried: Tilloy British Cemetery, Tilloy-Les-Mofflaines Pte. T. WAINMAN - Thomas Wainman, 41580, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment KIA 18th November 1916 Age 28. Thiepval Memorial Cpl. W.B. JARDINE – William Boyd Jardine 3015, 2nd/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died on 16 January 1917 Age 31 Buried: Jedburgh (Castlewood) Cemetery Pte. A. JARDINE – Adam Jardine G/16371, 10th Bn., Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment- formerly 4856, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders). KIA 31st July 1917 Menin Gate Memorial Sgt. W.M.B. NANSON – William Moore Bell Nanson 1745, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. KIA 4th June 1915 Age 34 Helles Memorial Pte. J.T. BOARDMAN – John Thomas Boardman 18841, 2nd Bn., Grenadier Guards. KIA 12th July 1916 Age 49 Buried: Essex Farm Cemetery Pte. P. THOMAS – Phillip Thomas - 2769, Yorkshire Hussars Yeomanry. KIA 25th May 1915 Age 31 Menin Gate Memorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 hello have you checked the on line library/newspaper resources ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 14 July , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Hello Coldstreamer - Thanks for your reply. Yes I am sifting through the on-line resources as well as the micro-film at the local library. Time consuming but deeply interesing all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 All refs to Oldham Chronicle: Jones Thomas Owen Corporal, Welsh Regiment, Aged 29, Address: Treorky, South Wales 6 Oct 1917 p9 col 2 Jones Thomas Owen Corporal, Welsh Regiment, Aged 29 6 Oct 1917 p10 col 2 Mills Herbert C Sergeant, Manchester Regiment, Aged 22, Address: Ordnance Arms, Park Road, Oldham 3 Nov 1917 p14 col 2 Mills Herbert C Sergeant, 375928, 2/10 Manchester Regiment, Address: Ordnance Arms, Park Road, Oldham 12 Oct 1918 p10 col 3 Mills Herbert C Sergeant, 375928, 2/10 Manchester Regiment, Address: Ordnance Arms, Park Road, Oldham 11 Oct 1919 p5 col 7 Mills Herbert Cecil Sergeant, 376928, Manchester Regiment, Aged 22, Address: Ordnance Arms Glodwick 3 Nov 1917 p9 col 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 14 July , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Thanks Simon - The microfilm copies of the Oldham Chronicle at the local reference library are my main source for the information. We also had another evening paper at that time, the Oldham Standard, the copies of which are also proving to be very useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 14 July , 2015 Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Shannon Dan Private, Cameron Highlanders, Address: 17 Hillside Avenue, Clarksfield 16 Oct 1915 p7 col 1 I have the Chronicle 14-19 CD Rom - perhaps the pictures might be useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Rose Posted 14 July , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2015 Thanks again Simon - I already have these images but these are far superior copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 4 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 4 August , 2015 Further to my previous posts, it appears that W.M.B (Bill) Nanson is remembered on the Helles Memorial in Turkey, Panel 158 - 170. If anyone has a photo it would be most appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchener's Bugle Posted 4 August , 2015 Share Posted 4 August , 2015 Excellent Post Red Rose thanks for highlighting these men. Quite a few men surprisingly and a good spread of units as well. From another big Rugy league fan........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 4 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 4 August , 2015 Thanks Bugle - One of our lads, (Jim Finnerty) was in the South Lancs but I'm not sure which Battalion. He received the Military Medal. However, he was a Widnes lad so maybe not with the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wood Posted 5 August , 2015 Share Posted 5 August , 2015 Further to my previous posts, it appears that W.M.B (Bill) Nanson is remembered on the Helles Memorial in Turkey, Panel 158 - 170. If anyone has a photo it would be most appreciated. I will add him to my list for September - http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=230092 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 5 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2015 Many thanks Phil - Bill's details are on the first posting at the top of the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 5 August , 2015 Admin Share Posted 5 August , 2015 I can get Shannon in September Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 6 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2015 Many thanks Michelle. I have recently been contacted by someone who is researching "Hawickandthewar". Hawick was Danny Shannon's home town. I am sure they too will be interested in this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchener's Bugle Posted 6 August , 2015 Share Posted 6 August , 2015 Hi Red Rose what was Jim Finnerty's service number? KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 7 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 7 August , 2015 Good morning KB. I have Jim's service number as 240278 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM75 Posted 18 August , 2015 Share Posted 18 August , 2015 Different shaped ball (mine's the round variety), but if I ever come across any reference to the club during my many hours per week spent trawling through the sports archives, I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 20 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 20 August , 2015 Thanks IM75. All help appreciated. Good luck with your research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpike Posted 20 August , 2015 Share Posted 20 August , 2015 If you send me your email address I have Nanson on Helles, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 22 August , 2015 Author Share Posted 22 August , 2015 Many thanks Bob. E-mail address just sent on PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roytoner Posted 6 October , 2015 Share Posted 6 October , 2015 hi, I've just finished researching one of the men who was killed at the same time as Wainman, might be of interest to you.... http://www.roytonrollofhonour.com/Pickles_Regan.html#plant_william_charles2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 9 October , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2015 Many thanks Roytoner. Best of luck with your continued research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rose Posted 12 November , 2015 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2015 Just found out that the name of Phillip Thomas (Yorkshire Hussars Yeomanry) mentioned at the top of this topic is noted on panel 5 at The Menin Gate memorial. If anyone is planning a visit an image would be most appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wood Posted 12 November , 2015 Share Posted 12 November , 2015 Do you still need Nanson from Helles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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