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name of POW camp please


RaySearching

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Could some kind forum member deduce the name of the POW camp on the document

I have been through the list of camps in ww1 without much success of a match

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regards Ray

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Johnboy

There is a long list of POW camps in Wiki here

can't quite get a match could it be the German spelling of the POW camp?

regards Ray

Edit

The document relates to William Bullivant who was captured by the enemy

and died a prisoner of war on the 10th Oct 1918 of Dysentery

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I can't quite decipher it so what name are you working on?

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I can't quite decipher it so what name are you working on?

none I was hoping a forum member would know and help me out

Regards Ray

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"St Franziskus in Lenze" as stated on the ICRC documents

Sounds like a hospital, the list is from Camp Gardelegen.

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I think the characters next to the P of W are "St" hence St Franziskus "St Francis" (presumably a hospital)

Edit: Ah, a little slow, but at least we agree!

Steve.

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Thanks JWK most appreciated

There you go Johnboy I knew somebody would know

Regards Ray

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So now you need to find a camp near the hospital!

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Well, the camp is Gardelegen, but now the puzzle is to find Lenze.

Can only find a Lenzen, in Brandenburg

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He is buried at Leuze-en-Hainaut, so I think Lenze is actually Leuze.

In other words, he either never made it as far as Germany or was being put to work nearer the front by the Germans.

BULLIVANT, W
Rank:Private
Service No:26159
Date of Death:10/10/1918
Regiment/Service:Yorkshire Regiment 13th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. F. 1.
Cemetery: LEUZE COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Steve.

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Many thanks to all for the additional info

here is a bit of additional info on William

William was the son of John Thomas and Ellen Bullivant at the time of his birth the couple were residing at 17 Price Arthur Street Middlesbrough
William can be found on the 1911 census aged 18 a farm labourer at Berwick Hills Farm Ormesby
His parents can be found on the 1911 census residing at 22 Laws Street Middlesbrough
Born and enlisted Middlesbrough
LEUZE COMMUNAL CEMETERY (Belgium)

Sad really

William was the one and only surviving child of John and Ellen and he perished in the Great War

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  • 8 years later...

Also in Leuze Communal Cemetery is William Izatt Penman incorrectly listed as W. L. Penman (correction submitted to CWGC.... we will  see). The Penman was captured and was held in a German POW camp. When he got sick he was sent to the St. Francis hospital in Leuze, Belgium. Leuze was captured and occupied by the Germans very early in the war and was not retaken until approximately 14 November 1918. 

The ICRC file on Penman shows: Gem.7. Battr. Gordon Highl.51.Div, geb (Geboren). 27.8.1899 in Scotland. Verst.(verstorben) 23.7.18 infolge Lungen und nierenenentzundung im Kriegslazarett St. Franziskus zu Leuze. Translation is: Soldier 7th Battalion Gordon, Highlanders 51st Division, born 27.8.1899 in Scotland. Deceased 23.7.18 as a result of lungs and kidney inflammation in the St. Francis military hospital in Leuze, (Belgium). 

It is quite likely most of the WWI British soldiers in Leuze Communal cemetery were prisoners of war who died during captivity. A cross check of ICRC records shows Bullivant was also a POW. 

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On 07/06/2015 at 18:49, Stebie9173 said:

He is buried at Leuze-en-Hainaut, so I think Lenze is actually Leuze.

In other words, he either never made it as far as Germany or was being put to work nearer the front by the Germans.

BULLIVANT, W
 
Rank:Private
Service No:26159
Date of Death:10/10/1918
Regiment/Service:Yorkshire Regiment 13th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. F. 1.
Cemetery: LEUZE COMMUNAL CEMETERY
 
 

Steve.

When was he captured? Somtimes, wounded or sick POWs died as well, they were not all working for the Germans (POW workforce was BTW used by both sides!).

Jan

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I have limited information on Bullivant. I was researching Penman. This is probably more than you asked for but, I recently visited Leuze Communal Cemetery (21 January 2024) to photograph all the CWGC war graves and upload them to FindAGrave. All graves had a photograph except Penman. When I crossed checked Penman with the CWGC records they only had his initials and his middle initial was incorrect compared to his military records. This caused me to go to Scotland People and download his birth certificate. His birth certificate confirmed his middle name. I then crossed checked with his ICRC records. That is where I got his records written in German and then translated those. I submitted my research to the CWGC for updating. Maybe they will update his name and maybe they will not. 

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