bumblingblob Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Hi, trying to find records for a James Henry Morrison born 1886 in Preston Lancashire he was in the army but I don't have any dates or numbers to go on, he is missing from the family census in 1901 so I presume he was in the army at that time. His brother Tom fought in the war and his other brother Luke was in the Air corps, I can find there records but nothing on James. Is there any other way of searching apart from going to London as its a long way from where Im living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 (edited) Hi James is on the 1901 census with his family at 12 Mount Pleasant West, Preston. According to the census his brother Luke was born in 1893. Tree on Ancestry has him born 7th August,1886 in 7 Brows Square, Preston...still looking Regards Barry Do you have any info. on his wife? How did you find out about him? He married Margaret Wignall in Jan 1908 at St.Peters Church, Preston he died 1948 10b,47 Amounderness, Lancs. If you have more of the family tree it is a good place to widen your search. Edited 9 May , 2015 by The Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 . Is there any other way of searching apart from going to London as its a long way from where Im living. Yes. The most useful record collections at the National Archives are now available online - often with the "usual suspects" of the family history websites - Ancestry and FindmyPast. This link will tell you what information might be out there, how to access it and, most importantly, how to interpret what you've found - http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/research.html John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 See if you can find a Medal Index Card for him on Ancestry UK, it is FREE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Service Records for both Luke and Thomas are on Find My Past. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 9 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Thanks everyone, did what you said Johnboy and came up trumps found his card he was army corps and his rank shows as dvr (Does that stand for driver?) also his reg number was f 313011 can anyone tell me from this any other info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Driver should mean horse driver. Are you sure of the prefix before his number? Is there a date on the card for entry to theatre of war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 I had not seen that prefix before F The man had been enlisted for work with the Forage section of the ASC but was not paid by the army Hopefully someone will tell us who did pay him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 (edited) Prefix is T as in Horsed Transport. Mike Edited 9 May , 2015 by Langdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 He is also in the Silver War Badge records - enlisted 10.12.15 & discharged 02.11.17 due to sickness at the age of 28 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 9 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Thanks that is great, can sickness mean injury or would it be through being gassed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Prefix is T as in Horsed Transport. Mike In the OP it certainly looks like f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Hi, As Mike says in post #10, there is a SWB record for a T313011 James Henry Morrison, discharged on 2.11.1917 aged 28, and "--" months (others on the same page have e.g. 5 months, etc). This would mean that man was born circa November 1889, rather than 1886. His age may be incorrect in the record, but it could equally be that there is more than one James Henry. For example, in the 1911 Census there is a James Henry Morrison* serving in India, age 23 (born in Sheffield). Regards Chris Edit: * I think though that man was killed in October 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 In the OP it certainly looks like f Like on the MIC! Transcribed as an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 If they have a space between the prefix and number they usually have a /. Easily misread. Coincidence both prefixes refer to ASC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 Don't claim to know anything about the ASC, but I've seen quite a few that are written as "T - " (number). Easily mistaken to read as "F". Without trying to hack anyone off, my point is that despite bumblingblob having found one MIC under the exact name of James Henry Morrison. it would be wrong to let him/her believe that he is absolutely their man. Surely they need to rule out all of the other James Henry's; James H's; J.H's; and J's - and that's assuming he served abroad and qualified for service medals. Would be interesting to know that if any family photos exists where insignia may help. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 10 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Hi clk, sadly there isn't any photo's of my grandad (James) in uniform only hearsay from a old man who lived close to them that he was in the army along with his brother Tom, have not come across J.H'S or the other one's but will take a look. What does ASC stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 ASC...Army Service Corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 10 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Thanks johnboy, also thanks clk have had another search of the records on ancestry and found this which matches his wife's name. Name: James Morrison Gender: Male Birth Place: Lancashire, England Enlistment Age: 34 Regimental Number: 14687 Regiment Name: Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire) Regiment Number of Images: 14 Form Title: Short Service Attestation Other Records: Search for 'James Morrison' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier James Morrison Self (Head) Margt Morrison Wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 From his record it seems he was with 8th Bttn S. Lancs Regiment. He was punished for being absent at Bournmouth c. 2/1/15 and again at Codford 4/4/15. Both places tie up with 8 S.Lancs. You can get more info from Long Long Trail, top right of this page. Click on Army then Infantry and scroll down to S.Lancs R . There is some detail on the battalion and you can then follow through to Brigade/Division and maybe see where he fought and work out where he might have been wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 10 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Sorry making a fool of myself, this is not the right person as James died in 1948 and was not killed in action along with the wrong family to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Same man as in post#2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Hi bumblingblob, It might be worth spending some time to see if your man is shown on the Absent Voters List for Preston https://preston1914.wordpress.com/absent-voter-list/ (Scroll down to under where the street names are listed to see images of the actual entries). Hopefully he is, and his service number and unit are given. Good luck. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblingblob Posted 10 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Thanks again, I found him but no regiment or info just the last number which was 5235, he lived at 110 Bedford street. Seems the more I find out the less I know. The old man who told me that all the brother's where in the force's seemed very sure at the time but maybe he was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 Take a deep breath! Make a list of the things that you know are correct eg. full name, dob, wifes name, any childrens names and their dob , occupation etc. Forget what you have been told and only accept any facts that come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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