Brown Posted 13 April , 2015 Share Posted 13 April , 2015 Walter John Curling RMLI died on the 5th Jan 1916. He is listed on the Helles memorial which suggests his body was not found however his local news paper suggested he died onboard a hospital ship! If this is the case what hospital ship(s) was in the area at that time, are there medical records for these ships available to be viewed and would Walter have been buried at sea? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 13 April , 2015 Share Posted 13 April , 2015 If he had been buried at sea his name would appear on one of the Naval Memorials in UK, the Portsmouth Naval Memorial in his case as a Portsmouth Division RMLI man. He could have died in the Helles 11th Casualty Clearing Station or in an RND field Ambulance. One of the 2/RMLI casualties of the previous day died in the HS GLOUCESTER CASTLE but some casualties went to HS SALTA, HS GRANTULLY CASTLE and HS ASSAYE in early January.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 13 April , 2015 Admin Share Posted 13 April , 2015 From CWGC web site Helles Memorial " There are also panels for those who died or were buried at sea in Gallipoli waters." There are 444 RMLI names on the Helles Memorial (753 from RNVR/160 from the RN). Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 13 April , 2015 Share Posted 13 April , 2015 Ken is correct. Those who died at sea from wounds received on land, and who were subsequently buried at sea, are generally remembered by name on the Helles Memorial. Purely for those casualties relating directly to the Gallipoli Campaign that is! Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 14 April , 2015 Share Posted 14 April , 2015 Ken is correct. Those who died at sea from wounds received on land, and who were subsequently buried at sea, are generally remembered by name on the Helles Memorial. Purely for those casualties relating directly to the Gallipoli Campaign that is! Robert Except for naval casualties of the RND who are not on the Helles Memorial if buried at sea but on the UK Naval Memorials as stated. We are dealing with a naval casualty here (RMLI). Naval casualties on the Helles Memorial are those killed/buried ashore whose graves are lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantwo Posted 14 April , 2015 Share Posted 14 April , 2015 As indicated by Horatio 2, post #2 above, HMHS Assaye was admitting casualties on 2nd, 3rd and 4th of January 1916, arriving at Alexandria on 9th January. In the records I have there are eight deaths on board, four of which are referred to as Buried at Sea, but not the casualty you are looking for. Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Posted 25 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 25 May , 2015 Except for naval casualties of the RND who are not on the Helles Memorial if buried at sea but on the UK Naval Memorials as stated. We are dealing with a naval casualty here (RMLI). Naval casualties on the Helles Memorial are those killed/buried ashore whose graves are lost. So what of the local news paper report of a hospital ship death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Posted 5 October , 2015 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2015 The report states that Private Walter John Curling RMLI died as a result of wounds on a hospital ship. This is from a book about the fallen of Deal and Sandwich called Faces From The Front by Judith Gaunt. This is a collation of the reports of the deceased from the East Kent Mercury. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2015 Share Posted 5 October , 2015 From Don Kindel's Naval History.net Wednesday, 5 January 1916Europa, old cruiser (flagship and depot ship, Aegean)DORAN, Michael, Seaman, RNR, A 2395, DOIRND, 2nd RM BattalionCURLING, Walter J, Private, RMLI (RFR 859), 16807 (Po), DOIGEE, Sidney, Private, RMLI, S 753 (Ply), DOIRND, 3rd Field Company Divisional EngineersBENNETT, Samuel, Sapper, RM, S 1172 (Deal)BINNS, Frank, Sapper, RM, S 1500 (Deal), DOIRND, Hawke BattalionLOW, Alexander, Able Seaman, RNVR, Clyde Z 3115, DOI in HS Gloucester CastleRussell, pre-Dreadnought battleshipCHAPMAN, James S, Leading Stoker, K 1337 (Ch), wounded ashore, DOW Not listed aboard any hospital ship Regards Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 7 February , 2018 Share Posted 7 February , 2018 On 13/04/2015 at 20:57, Brown said: Walter John Curling RMLI died on the 5th Jan 1916. He is listed on the Helles memorial which suggests his body was not found however his local news paper suggested he died onboard a hospital ship! If this is the case what hospital ship(s) was in the area at that time, are there medical records for these ships available to be viewed and would Walter have been buried at sea? Stephen Hi Stephen, I’m in the process of researching Walter John Curlings family, just wondering if you would be able to help me at all? Please contact me at this email address -William.gosman94@gmail.com Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards, William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 July , 2018 Share Posted 24 July , 2018 HI RaySearching We have seen paperwork saying that Russell, pre-Dreadnought battleshipCHAPMAN, James S, Leading Stoker, K 1337 (Ch), wounded ashore, DOW died on the hospital ship "HMS Salta" on the 5.1.1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 24 July , 2018 Share Posted 24 July , 2018 7 hours ago, Eiramenna said: HI RaySearching We have seen paperwork saying that Russell, pre-Dreadnought battleshipCHAPMAN, James S, Leading Stoker, K 1337 (Ch), wounded ashore, DOW died on the hospital ship "HMS Salta" on the 5.1.1916. Hi Eiramenna As post 7 Lists all those who died on the 5th January 1916 From Naval History .net The last sentence in post 7 Not listed aboard any hospital ship, refers to Curling Walter (if you follow the thread from post 1) Not Chapman James S who is commemorated on Chatham Naval Memorial Although I could have made it clearer And welcome to the forum Eiramenna Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Owlman Posted 26 July , 2018 Share Posted 26 July , 2018 Hi William The TNA have several sheets of your man's service from being a regular to his Fleet Reserve time and service with the RNd marine battalions until wounded and death. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7744999 this link should take you to the records page. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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