museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Hello all, please bear with me. I am looking for a ship owned by the Indo-China Steam Navigation Company that was torpedoed in March 1917, the name looks like Steamer Athos, could be Athea. I cannot find it on the net. May I please ask you most kindly to see if you can identify this for me please. Thanking you sincerely in advance. Kind regards. Tom, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 The French vessel Athos was torpedoed at midday on 17th February 1917, en route from Port Said to Marseilles, by U65 under Lt Hermann von Fischel. 754 lives lost (including 453 CLC labourers). If this is the one, let me know - there is a section on this in Gregory James' book on the Chinese Labour Corps. Thanks James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falloden Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Nothing recorded for those names or similar in "British Vessels Lost at Sea 1914-18". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 There was also a Norwegian Steamer Athos sunk near Kettleness Point by UB 34 on 26th January 1917 with 2 casualties. It doesn't sound like an Indo-China Steam Navigation Company vessel. They seemed to be called Ping Pong, Chop Suey etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Thanks everyone, but James has it exactly. I did not realise there were that many casualties. So very sad. The lad I am looking for on the ship is Timothy Cronin. I cannot find him in the CWGC. Perhaps the ship does not qualify for inclusion? Thank you IPT Fallodan and James for all your kind help. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Your chap isn't mentioned, but this may be of interest - Papers Past — Oamaru Mail — 7 March 1917 — EPIC OF THE ATHOS. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Wow what story, heroes every one. Thanks for the story. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Ship was owned by Messageries Maritimes, apparently. 1,846 passengers and 328 crew on board, but there were two escorting destroyers, so they were able to pick up 1,420. Of the 754 lost, 543 were CLC recruits, 104 were from 77th Senegalise Light Infantry. Also lost were Captain Andre Silvestre, Adjutant Henri Poujetoux, Purser Paul Ramel and Lieutenants Blaise Roubert and Jean Santi. I guess your Timothy Cronin was one of the remaining 100 lives lost. This attack was instrumental in bringing China into the war on the Allies side on 14th August 1917. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 That's great James. I really do appreciate your help, and for the time you spent to collect this data for me. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Munson Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 This is probably your man: CRONIN, Timothy (32) Fireman Born: Cork. Died: 27 Oct.1918, at Sea (Influenza). of 24, Osprey Street, Rotherhithe, London. Ship: Corinthian (Glasgow) O.N.111257 Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Ah, so he survived the Athos sinking... only to die of flu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Sorry lads, he was a Master Mariner, not a fireman. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Munson Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Can only find one other possible with a first name initial T. Several more named CRONIN with different forenames, but none master mariners CRONIN, T. (54) A.B. of 7, Have Street, Bootle. Born: Liverpool. Ship: Port Jackson O.N. 84362 (Aberdeen) Died: 28 April 1917 At Sea Drowned Ship Torpedoed BT334 series Deaths at sea 1781 - 1968 Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Thank you Terence, I appreciate that. Kind regards. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 26 March , 2015 Share Posted 26 March , 2015 I can find only 2 records, (Second Mate 1861 and First Mate 1869), for a Timothy Cronin in UK & Ireland Masters and Mates Certificates 1850-1927. However, this chap was born in 1842, (Liverpool), which would make him about 75 in 1917. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2015 Thank you for that JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falloden Posted 27 March , 2015 Share Posted 27 March , 2015 I believe that this is your "Athos". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falloden Posted 27 March , 2015 Share Posted 27 March , 2015 ... and more photos and information here: http://www.messageries-maritimes.org/athos.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 27 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2015 Thank you Falloden, She really is big one. Kind regards. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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