dutch701 Posted 16 March , 2015 Share Posted 16 March , 2015 Hi, I have just come across a all white metal Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Cap badge. It is a 2 piece construction, white rose and scroll,In the scroll it has the Loyal North Lancashire written in it, then the white crown and lion sat on top, with two brass lugs to the rear instead of a slider. Could this have been a territorial regiment or a Snr Nco's cap badge. Thanks in advance Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 March , 2015 Share Posted 16 March , 2015 Hi, I have just come across a all white metal Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Cap badge. It is a 2 piece construction, white rose and scroll,In the scroll it has the Loyal North Lancashire written in it, then the white crown and lion sat on top, with two brass lugs to the rear instead of a slider. Could this have been a territorial regiment or a Snr Nco's cap badge. Thanks in advance Shane. There are two possible solutions that I can think of. 1. Between 1881 and 1908 Volunteer Battalions often wore white metal versions of the cap badge of the regiment to which they had been newly affiliated. Likewise many of the Militia battalions wore their bi-metal badges in reversed metals. 2. Another possibility is that the badge was worn by Regimental Policeman on their arm bands (aka brassards), usually between or just above the large letters RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 16 March , 2015 Share Posted 16 March , 2015 Hi, I have just come across a all white metal Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Cap badge. It is a 2 piece construction, white rose and scroll,In the scroll it has the Loyal North Lancashire written in it, then the white crown and lion sat on top, with two brass lugs to the rear instead of a slider. My granddad's first regiment in 1915! I have never seen an example of the badge, but a white rose doesn't sound right... I though White Roses, unlike a certain brand of chocolate, were exclusively Yorkshire? [standing by to be corrected...] Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch701 Posted 16 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2015 Thanks for the reply's Guys. I have took a gamble and bought this badge , when it comes i will put on a couple of photos. There are some photos of it but they belong to the seller so i will take some myself. It may give you a better Idea. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill24chev Posted 16 March , 2015 Share Posted 16 March , 2015 My granddad's first regiment in 1915! I have never seen an example of the badge, but a white rose doesn't sound right... I though White Roses, unlike a certain brand of chocolate, were exclusively Yorkshire? [standing by to be corrected...] Trajan I agree it would not have a white rose as such but if in white metal the rose would be the same colour as rest of badge. Most WW1 era badges I have seen are either all in one metal (brass?) colour or have a white metal Crown & Lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 17 March , 2015 Share Posted 17 March , 2015 There was one on ebay last week. It was not a SNCO's badge to my knowledge as there is no reference book, documentary account or record of such a badge. Unfortunately all too often cap badge 'variations' are attributed to SNCOs by dealers with no evidence at all and a huge price tag attached. All w/m badges were worn by some Territorials on their No 1 Dress hats but not on khaki during the war. However this was regtl practice and not universal to all TF regts. However you will find some regt badges (such as the Middlesex) which were not TF at all. In the Middlesexes case their SNCOs are recorded as wearing all w/m badges post WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch701 Posted 24 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 March , 2015 I now have a photo of the cap badge in question, I will try to upload a photo of the back later, regards Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch701 Posted 24 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 March , 2015 I can let you know that I have found out that the badge would have been an earlier version a 1st/2nd (volunteer) Bn's - 4th/5th (Territorial Force) Bn's. c.1902/3 - 1916/17 other ranks cap badge. The badge would later be changed and fitted with a slider. regards Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch701 Posted 24 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 24 March , 2015 There was one on ebay last week. It was not a SNCO's badge to my knowledge as there is no reference book, documentary account or record of such a badge. Unfortunately all too often cap badge 'variations' are attributed to SNCOs by dealers with no evidence at all and a huge price tag attached. All w/m badges were worn by some Territorials on their No 1 Dress hats but not on khaki during the war. However this was regtl practice and not universal to all TF regts. However you will find some regt badges (such as the Middlesex) which were not TF at all. In the Middlesexes case their SNCOs are recorded as wearing all w/m badges post WW2. Hi Max, Thanks for the input, it was the badge in question. couldn't really post until i had it in my possession. but pleased with the outcome and learnt a bit more about this nice cap badge. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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