lionboxer Posted 14 March , 2015 Share Posted 14 March , 2015 2126 Rifleman James LATIMER is officially recorded by the CWGC as dying on 14th March 1915. His service record states 10th - 14th March as does his "servicemens effects" record on Ancestry. The burial return sheet of the CWGC gives the map reference of where his body was recovered from before internment at Cabaret Rouge Cemetery. I've plotted this on what I think is the correct map and shows it to be in the area where the fighting took place on the 10th March at Neuve-Chapelle. Can someone confirm this please? Also, am I right in thinking that looking at the burial return sheet that his body was actually found on 18th September 1925? Lionboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 14 March , 2015 Share Posted 14 March , 2015 Map coordinates (Google): 50.5817, 2.7745 Map Coordinates Converter here Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionboxer Posted 14 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2015 Oh dear, was he really buried at sea just off the coast of north Africa?! Self confessed techno duffer here Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 14 March , 2015 Share Posted 14 March , 2015 Sorry! Click on "here" again and you'll see that the coordinates in the Submit Query box has a '6' in it. That should be a 'b'. Try that... Then go to top right and choose either map or satellite. Or put the Google co-ordinates 50.5817, 2.7745 into the Google Maps search box here Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionboxer Posted 14 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2015 Yay! That's clever Mike, many thanks. It is the same place as I had plotted on a trench map which I think confirms my idea that James was killed on the 10th in the initial attack. Lionboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionboxer Posted 17 March , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2015 According to the regimental history the dead from the battle were buried in NC churchyard which was later damaged by shellfire and their identities were lost. At least James has an identified grave (Cabaret Rouge Cemetery) which I was able to visit in 2008 and pay my respects. Lionboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torchy Posted 21 March , 2015 Share Posted 21 March , 2015 My great great Uncle Serjeant Albert Edward Gregory (2525) 2 Battalion Rifle Brigade is buried in Cabaret Rouge Cemetery. The records of his death are a little confusing. Some say he died on 9th May 1915 but when his body was recovered in the 1920's this was changed to 26th May. I wondered how they managed to identify his body and come to the conclusion that he died later. All a little confusing. I intend to visit his grave in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 21 March , 2015 Share Posted 21 March , 2015 Hi torchy, As is my great uncle and avatar as shown - and a lovelier, more peaceful resting place you couldn't ask for.. You might like to post anew being a new topic - and to attract the experts.. I've had a quick look at your query and in the records - CWGC, Soldiers Died in the Great War and Registers of Soldiers Effects - the DoW date is 26th May. The 9th appears on the Grave Registration Report and the Burial Return - and for all the other soldiers buried prior to Souchez in a grave containing 21 unknown British soldiers and one unknown officer. I had hoped to match him with someone in the same grave who similarly died of wounds on the 26th - but John McGarry (Z20) according to his entry in the Register of Effects died in Germany as a POW on that date. So I'm confused by that! My only thought is that previous intel had it that they all died on the 9th - and subsequent battalion/regiment reports clarified the KIA's and the DoW's (including the POW!). Post again and someone may well explain this better. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torchy Posted 8 April , 2015 Share Posted 8 April , 2015 Hi Mike Sorry for late response. I'm grateful for your reply. At the moment I don't seem to be able to post new topics but will keep trying. Its a shame I don't have any family stories to refer to about Albert. My next port of call is the Rifles Museum in Winchester. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriaty Posted 8 April , 2015 Share Posted 8 April , 2015 Torchy The CWGC register says that he died of wounds received on Hill 60. The battalion diary might give an idea when they were fighting there. If he died of wounds, it does seem a little strange that he was buried in a trench grave along with a number of other soldiers. The body was identified from "khaki, buttons and numerals" according to the Concentration Document - Burial Return from Spring 1924. Moriaty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torchy Posted 13 April , 2015 Share Posted 13 April , 2015 I have a copy of the Battalion Diary and the 2nd Battalion were at the Rouge Bancs/Fromelles area. Three men died on 26th May but are not named. I don't believe Hill 60 is anywhere near. I read another post which states a lot of soldiers did not know what area they were in. I know he was a stretcher bearer from his service records. I wondered if he could have been out recovering bodies after the battle of Aubers Ridge on 9th May, died and then got buried with the 9th May casualties. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 3 October , 2018 Share Posted 3 October , 2018 Hi LionBoxer, do you have any photographs of Rifleman James Latimer. Many thanks Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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