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Khaki

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I just brought home a M1917 Enfield rifle and I thought I would compare it to my other one, on examination I see significant verdigris buildup around the leather sling brass claws. Has anyone designed something that will prevent verdigris developing between leather and brass?

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khaki

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I think it is caused in part by a reaction to the tanning chemicals in the leather. If you look around on military forums there is a fair bit of discussion on it. FOR EXAMPLE.

I am not sure if there is a sure fire way to do it. I clean the offending articles as scrupulously as possible and dry them very very carefully and on one sling where it just kept happening I gave the offending hooks a coat of clear nail polish. (I am not recommending this on an original sling, mine was a much newer one that I was using regularly on a rifle) that seemed to do the trick so far.

Chris

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I have the same problem on a Sam Browne belt. Using anything that would soak or take off the finish on the leather is a no no, so I used methylated spirits, very carefully on a cotton bud (Q Tip), to clean off the verdidgris without soaking the leather. After giving the brass a careful polish, again using a cotton bud, this seems to have done the trick. Keeping brass out of a humid or damp area also seems to help.

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Thanks Chris and Squirrel,

I will experiment and see what can be achieved. Interestingly there are two slings one being a 1918 original and the other a repro, but the verdigris is only on the original, despite being stored together under the same conditions. Perhaps the older tanning methods were more reactive than today??

khaki

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You could dress up your M1917 with a "Kerr NoBuckl" sling and avoid the issue :)

So when do we get to see the rifle?

Chris

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A good thought Chris, (kerr NoBuckl), although I don't have one, another 'quest' to pursue. A rifle photo?, I still don't have a decent camera, just a cellphone (poor excuse) actually I have to admit we do have a camera, but cannot find a memory card (is that what they are called?) for that model.

khaki

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Hi Chris, best I can do for now.

(top) Rock Island 1903 & bayonet

(ctr) 1917 clip 30.06

bottom) Winchester M1917 & bayonet

khaki

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I believe the tannins are reactive with copper alloys, would a light coat of wax on the inside of the sling loops help ?

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