Three more men listed on Wybunbury War Memorial - no definite info?

[potty5]

Dear forum members, any help on positively identifying these three men would be gratefully appreciated (or further info required). The first man is George John Glover, who was in the Royal Engineers and died from his wounds on September 28, 1921 (so no info on CWGC). He is buried in Wybunbury cemetery and the info I have got on him comes from his weathered gravestone. The second man I have not identified. His name is Charles H. Thomas. His name was added to the memorial at a later date (with 4 other names) but that's all I have on this man. Finally the last one is a Thomas Johnson. He is remembered on a family gravestone in Wybunbury and it states that he was killed in action on September 3 (or 5th?), 1917, but I can't find any info at all on him (no CWGC or Soldiers Died info on man of that name dying on that day). I have completed all the other men, but can't finish project without these 3 guys. Thanks very much.

[roughdiamond]

Finally the last one is a Thomas Johnson. He is remembered on a family gravestone in Wybunbury and it states that he was killed in action on September 3 (or 5th?), 1917

I reckon this is your man http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1633485/JOBSON,%20JOHN%20THOMAS couldn't find anyone with Wybunbury in "Additional information" so looked at nearby villages and tried Shavington.

As you can see he's listed as 29446 Pte John Thomas JOBSON, but the KIA date 03/09/17 seems right.

You could try the same trick with your other 2 men.

Sam

[ralphjd]

There is a George JAMES Glover b 1892 an apprentice boiler maker 1911 civil parish of Monks Coppenhall also same name correct age served in the RE no WR 202388 Sapper SWB 42646 possibly your man unless the family headstone actually states George JOHN.

[KevinBattle]

RAY, CHARLES HERBERT. Rank: Gunner. Service No: 5888. Date of Death: 14/10/1917. Age: 31.

Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery "C" Bty. 77th Bde.

Grave Reference: X. F. 21. Cemetery: DOZINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY.

Additional Information: Son of Jane Vickers, of Grange Cottage, Wybunbury, Nantwich.

(same first Names as your C H Thomas, possibly a foster or step child)?

Presumably you already have all of these?

BAILEY, JOHN WILLIAM Private 290906 26/09/1918 20 Welsh Regiment United Kingdom Panel 7. VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL

DODD, ERNEST Lance Serjeant 24718 07/06/1917 19 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 19 - 22. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

HEWSON, J Private 243638 19/07/1917 19 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom XVI. D. 6. LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

HOLDSWORTH, FREDERICK WILLIAM Lance Corporal 44115 20/04/1918 34 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 61 to 63. TYNE COT MEMORIAL

HUGHES, J Rifleman S/12913 16/08/1916 18 Rifle Brigade United Kingdom I. D. 4. QUARRY CEMETERY, MONTAUBAN

KERLEY, A E Company Serjeant Major 102051 05/01/1920 45 The King's (Liverpool Regiment) United Kingdom 18. I. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

MASON, REGINALD Gunner 145800 10/05/1918 27 Royal Garrison Artillery United Kingdom III. C. 10. BRANDHOEK NEW MILITARY CEMETERY NO.3

McGEACHIE, ALEXANDER VERNON Private 17075 09/04/1917 30 The King's (Liverpool Regiment) United Kingdom IV. G. 19. TILLOY BRITISH CEMETERY, TILLOY-LES-MOFFLAINES

OAKES, A Lance Corporal 7686 05/11/1918 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom IA. I. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

RAY, CHARLES HERBERT Gunner 5888 14/10/1917 31 Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom X. F. 21. DOZINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY

STRETCH, THOMAS RICHARD Private 10596 04/11/1915 23 North Staffordshire Regiment United Kingdom 15. 1. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

VICKERS, HARRY RAY Lance Serjeant 8706 21/02/1915 27 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 19 - 22. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

WILLIAMSON, THOMAS ALFRED Private 418845 04/06/1916 41 Canadian Infantry Canadian VII. B. 8A. LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

WOOLEY, JOHN Private 10239 03/10/1915 20 Cheshire Regiment United Kingdom I. E. 119. CHOCQUES MILITARY CEMETERY

and

BOOKER, DENNIS Sergeant 610543 14/02/1943 22 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Centre Plot. Row 3. Grave 15. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

BUCKLEY, HAROLD Driver T/124919 22/06/1941 21 Royal Army Service Corps United Kingdom Column 74. ALAMEIN MEMORIAL

HODGKISSON, JACK Private 244899 23/01/1941 20 Royal Army Service Corps United Kingdom North side. Row 5B. Grave 1. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

HUGHES, JOHN KENNETH Gunner 1156782 30/12/1944 21 Royal Artillery United Kingdom IV. 123. BRUNSSUM WAR CEMETERY

QUAYLE, LEONARD HEWITT Trooper 7908832 16/01/1945 28 Royal Armoured Corps United Kingdom Centre Plot. Row 19. Grave 12. WYBUNBURY (ST. CHAD) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION.

Looks as if the Hughes family lot members in both WW1 and WW2.

[ralphjd]

Charles Herbert Ray was the son of John Ray , born 1887 Wybunbury and the g/son of Hannah, listed only as Herbert in 1911 not much help as it doesn't seem yo get us anywhere yet.

[IPT]

There is a death for George J Glover registered Sep Qtr 1921 in Nantwich,

He may be the above George James with the SWB, if he later died at home

[potty5]

Just checked my records and Sam you are correct mate - thank you!! The new panel added to the Wybunbury War Memorial states Thomas Johnson, but it should read John Thomas JOBSON!!! Just been to check the gravestone so somebody has made a big mistake here. Mark

[ralphjd]

According to the medal rolls Charles Herbert Ray had a third christian name - Martin.

[ralphjd]

Louisa Ashley b 1886 m Charles Thomas March qtr 1911 St Chad Wybunbury one daughter Ada age 1 in 1911 lived Grange Cottages Wybunbury same address as Kevin has for Ray possibly enlisted under an alias ? a bit Alice in Wonderland this lot.

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On ‎01‎/‎03‎/‎2015 at 14:30, potty5 said:

Dear forum members, any help on positively identifying these three men would be gratefully appreciated (or further info required). The first man is George John Glover, who was in the Royal Engineers and died from his wounds on September 28, 1921 (so no info on CWGC). He is buried in Wybunbury cemetery and the info I have got on him comes from his weathered gravestone. The second man I have not identified. His name is Charles H. Thomas. His name was added to the memorial at a later date (with 4 other names) but that's all I have on this man. Finally the last one is a Thomas Johnson. He is remembered on a family gravestone in Wybunbury and it states that he was killed in action on September 3 (or 5th?), 1917, but I can't find any info at all on him (no CWGC or Soldiers Died info on man of that name dying on that day). I have completed all the other men, but can't finish project without these 3 guys. Thanks very much.

Hello,

Did you manage to find out more about John Jobson?