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Researching 16th Royal Scots (McCraes)

I have compiled a list for this battalion

I have added many Photographs of the battalion and would like to hear from anyone who may wish to share any data or photographs

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robbo

Below is a list of those men who transferred to the RE Special Companies from 16 RS before the battalion went to France.

R S number RE number

18795 William E Barnie 106386 A/ Sgt MM

18801 Boner Thomson 106401

18868 John Morrison 106387 Cpl MM

18896 William Redpath 106388 Cpl (commissioned 15.8.16)

18735 William J Duncan 106390 Sgt

18846 John McIntosh 106399 CQMS

18850 Alexander McIntosh 106394 Sgt MM

18864 James DW Mills 106398 Cpl (commissioned Northumberland Fusiliers 27.11.17)

18902 John Robertson 106395 Cpl

18915 Andrew Kerr Smith 106389 Cpl MM (application for commission refused)

20012 David M Stewart 106400 Cpl

Do you have a photo of Andrew Kerr Smith or any of the others mentioned please?

TR

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Hi TR

Thanks for your interest and list.

I do not have a Photo of Andrew Kerr Smith. sorry

I will check out the others and let you know if I have anything

I assume by transferred to RE Special Companies They enlisted with the 16th originally. Does RE mean Royal Engineers?

Robbo

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William Edward Barnie

Hi TR sorry no Photo yet perhaps someone might post one.

William Edward Barnie was a Student of Arts 1913-1915. 16th Royal Scots Private .Corporal RE (Special Brigade). France MM 1917

Ned Barnie was the first Scott and the oldest person ever to swim the English Channel both ways.

Ned Barnie loved swimming so much that he decided to take on the English Channel. In 1951 he became the oldest man to make the crossing in both directions.

Robbo

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Hi TR

RS Number18868 John Morrison RE number 106387 No photo Yet perhaps someone will post one.

Cpl MM Galashiels Academy. Student of Science, 1913-15 and 1918-19. 16th Royal Scots, Private Dec. 1914. R.E. (Special Brigade), Corporal July 1915. France Aug. 1915 to June 1916. Gassed at Arras June 1916. M.M. June 1916.

Robbo

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Hi TR no photo sorry perhaps someone will post one

RS Number 18896 William Redpath RE Number 106388 Cpl (commissioned 15.8.16)

Student of Arts, 1912-15. 16th Royal Scots, Private Dec. 1914. R.E. (SpecialBrigade), Corporal July 1915. R.G.A., 2nd Lieut. June to Dec. 1918. France Aug. 1915 and Oct. 1916. Gassed June 1916.

Robbo

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Hi TR

No Photo yet perhaps someone will post one

RS number 18846 John McIntosh Re Number 106399 CQMS

Webster's Seminary, Kirriemuir. Student of Arts and Science, 1913-15 and 1918-20; M.A. 1920. O.T.C. Infantry, 1914, Cadet. 16th Royal Scots, Private Dec. 1914. R.E., Corporal July 1915; Sergeant March 1916; C.Q.M.S. June 1918; Officer Cadet Nov. 1918. Royal Scots, 2nd Lieut. April 1919.

Robbo

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Hi TR

Sorry no photo yet perhaps someone will post one.

Rs Number 18864 Cpl James DW Mills RE number 106398

(commissioned Northumberland Fusiliers 27.11.17)

Daniel Stewart's College. Student of Arts and Science, 1913-15 and 1919-20; B.Sc. 1920. O.T.C. Infantry, 1914, Cadet. i6th Royal Scots, Private Dec. 1914. R.E., Corporal July 1915. 3rd Northumberland Fusiliers, 2nd Lieut. Nov. 1917.Attached Durham Light Infantry. France

Robbo

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Hi TR

No photo yet perhaps someone will post one

RS Number 18902 Cpl John Robertson Re Number 106395

George Heriot's School. M.A., B.Sc. 1906. Baxter and Tait Research Scholar.16th Royal Scots, Private Nov. 1914; Corporal. R.E. (Special Brigade), Corporal June 1915. Research Department, Royal Arsenal, Woolwich, April 1917.

Robbo


Hi TR

No photo yet perhaps someone will post one.

RS Number 20012 Cpl David M Stewart Re Number 106400

Edinburgh University M.A. 1906; B.Sc. 1908. Schoolmaster. 16th Royal Scots, Private.

Corporal D M Stewart ,of Lundin Links was wounded in the left arm by a shell on September 25 th in France. Cpl Stewart who was a graduate in arts and science of Edinburgh University. And science master in Moray House.Joined McCrae’s Battalion (16th Royal Scots) in January 1915 and was transferred to the Royal Engineers (chemist Section) in July 1915.

Robbo

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Robbo, One of my grandfather's cousins was in the 16th Royal Scots:

Service Number 19062, Private William Mackie, C Company. Enlisted 5th December 1914.

Worked as a hairdresser (according to 1911 census), but stated he was shop porter on his enlistment forms. However Army Casualty form also mentions hairdresser. Lived at 7 Murdoch Terrace, Edinburgh in 1914. William married Ann Hope in 1915, before the battalion moved to France and his daughter was born.

Survived Somme 1916, Arras, Ypres but was shot in the heel at Lys on 9th April 1918. Spent much of 1918 in hospital before moving to depot at Nigg, caught Flu a few weeks later and died 7 Nov 1918. According to the McCrae book he was the last original recruit to die during the war. I believe only 30 of the original recruits were in the 16th when it was disbanded in May 1918!

William is buried at North Merchiston, Edinburgh, not far from Murdoch Terrace.

Service record survives, but no photo (apart from his grave). If anyone has any more info or a photo I'd like to see it!

Steve

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Hi Steve

Thanks for posting

Yes indeed

Service Number 19062, Private William Mackie, C Company was in McCrae's 16th Battalion Royal Scots

There is I believe a photo of him in the McCrae' Battalion Book as a member of Sandy Yules section taken at Herriots in January 1915.

Sandy Yule was C company Sergeant and W Mackie is pictured seated 2nd from left.As he is the only William Mackie i have in the battalion it is more than likely this is him.

I assume if you contact Jack Alexander he might be able to confirm this.

Many Thanks for the additional info

Robbo

 

A Photo Of William Mackie from a local newspaper of the time attached

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Robbo, Thanks for the info, I've just bought the book and it looks very detailed and well researched. Amazed to find a photo of him!

I agree it looks like it must be him, since his official cause of death is "Died of Wounds", he's the only Royal Scot in the 16th called William Mackie list on CWGC and he was in the same company "C" as Yule.

I'll contact the Trust to see if they can shed any more light on it.

Thanks

Steve

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Hi TR

No Photo yet perhaps someone will post one

RS number 18846 John McIntosh Re Number 106399 CQMS

Webster's Seminary, Kirriemuir. Student of Arts and Science, 1913-15 and 1918-20; M.A. 1920. O.T.C. Infantry, 1914, Cadet. 16th Royal Scots, Private Dec. 1914. R.E., Corporal July 1915; Sergeant March 1916; C.Q.M.S. June 1918; Officer Cadet Nov. 1918. Royal Scots, 2nd Lieut. April 1919.

Robbo

I think this the John McIntosh you list. He married my grandfather's sister, Anne Milligan, in 1917. The information you give is very useful as I did not know much about him. Thanks, Neale.

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HI Robbo

Yes, John McIntosh survived WW1. He worked as a teacher after the war. His 5 children were born between 1917 and 1925.

Neale

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Robbo,

Hope your project continues to go well. I have 185 hits on "16th R" in my index of 9th Royal Scots, mostly Medal Rolls so you may have much of them, but certainly other information accompanies it. See: https://neillgilhooley.com/9th-royal-scots/index/

I would be grateful for reciprocal information.

Kind regards,

Neill

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