kenmorrison Posted 9 January , 2015 Share Posted 9 January , 2015 Can anyone help me identify this man's Battalion, please. His service record has yet to be digitised. 2nd Lt. Edmund Outram was killed on 1 July 1916. The CWGC Register shows him as 26th Bn of the Manchester Regt. but this was a Reserve Bn. Many thanks Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 9 January , 2015 Share Posted 9 January , 2015 SDGW also has the 26th but his MIC doesn't show any battalion. Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 9 January , 2015 Share Posted 9 January , 2015 No mention of him in the battalion histories of the 12, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21 and 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promenade Posted 9 January , 2015 Share Posted 9 January , 2015 According to his papers he was was killed with 19th Manchesters. Promenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 9 January , 2015 Share Posted 9 January , 2015 Promenade is correct. My apologies - a couple of pages of the battalion history had stuck together. It has him and Capt Mather commanding 5 - 8 Platoons, B Company, later noting that at the end of the action, he and eleven men were missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 9 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 9 January , 2015 Excellent! Many thanks everyone. Incidentally, his father was a Captain in the Mercantile Marine and commanded the SS Alsatian when it became an armed merchant cruiser; and the flag-ship of the 10th Cruiser Squadron. He was awarded the DSO for services in Patrol Cruisers (L/G 6/8/1915) Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 10 January , 2015 Share Posted 10 January , 2015 According to his papers he was was killed with 19th Manchesters. Promenade Does his Service Record provide any other enlightening information?Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 10 January , 2015 Share Posted 10 January , 2015 Does his Service Record provide any other enlightening information? Tim Presumably, as Joe has his papers, then there's a LIverpool connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 10 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2015 Regarding the Liverpool connection, in 1911 Edmund, aged 15 - born Glasgow, was at boarding school, St Oswald's College Lower Middle School at Ellesmere in Shropshire. His mother, Agnes, was at Gateacre Brow, Prescott, Liverpool. (married for 17 years 1 child) Captain Edmund Outram married Agnes Young in Glasgow in 1894 and Edmund (junior) was born there in 1895. It's possible he attended Bellahouston Academy in Glasgow as there is a Lt. Edmund Outram on the school memorial but his regt. is shown as the Loyal North Lancs. However I don't see such a casualty on CWGC or anywhere else. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 10 January , 2015 Share Posted 10 January , 2015 By the by, I suspect his attachment still to the 26th Bn is that he had only just joined the 19th battalion - presumably the paperwork never caught up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RFC1917MC Posted 27 June , 2015 Share Posted 27 June , 2015 Hi There, Mike from Australia here. I note your forum subject of Lt. Edmund Outram, Mancheter Regt, K.I.A Also note the details of his Father, Commander Edmund Outram, D.S.O, RNR I have an interest in his father Edmund senior, though I don't profess to know everything Wondering if you are related, or what the interest might be. I look forward to hearing from you Cheers Mike PS: I have only just found the post today June 27th 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 27 June , 2015 Author Share Posted 27 June , 2015 Mike - I've sent a PM Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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