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9th (Glasgow Hds.) HLI - Pte. Charles E. Murdoch


stephen p nunn

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Here is another man I am looking into:

Charles E. Murdoch (333109) of the 9th HLI.

He was born in Glasgow and enlisted there.

He was KIA on 17/4/1918 and is remembered at Tyne Cot.

According to his MIC he also had service number 6379 and was entitled to the pair.

I now have his BWM.

Am keen to develop knowledge of his story.

Can anyone help please?

Thank you.

SPN
Maldon

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There is a record on FindMyPast, http://search.findmypast.com.au/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007307559%2f01088&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2fsupp%2f159382, a Daily Register dated 8 Jun 1917, showing he was wounded and was sent to the 3rd Scottish General Hospital, Stobhill, Glasgow, and that he was admitted with 332919 Pte. C.S. Black on 28 May 1917.

Mark

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I think it would pay to have look at Scotlandspeople.

He is listed in the deaths Service Returns. Which lists him as being 32. (Also the date, kia and F & F.)

There is a Charles E Murdoch born in Glasgow aged 26 visiting in Cadder (then in Lanarkshire) in the 1911 census. I would not set too much store by that alone.

However there were only two Charles E Murdochs born 1884-1886 in the whole of Scotland. Both were Charles Edward Murdoch. One was born in Anderston (Glasgow) and the other in Eastwood (then in Lanarkshire).

If you haven't already looked at it there is a transcription of the Glasgow City Roll of Honour here:

http://www.firstworldwarglasgow.co.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=19414&p=0

(I've downloaded a copy of the original from somewhere.)

Edit:

He is also in the Evening Times Roll of Honour (as Charles Edward Murdoch), according to the index including a picture.

Unfortunately only the index is online here:

http://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Evening-Times-Roll-of-Honour.aspx

The book itself is at the Mitchell Library. (I had an idea that someone was transcribing it - but it may have been indexing it.)

R.

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Thank you Mark and R for this brilliant information which I will add to the details on Charles.

Best regards.

SPN
Maldon

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Just been reading the War Diary and then checking on the CWGC site. Looks like Charles was killed with 12 others during shelling on Battalion Headquarters. 9 of them are listed at Tyne Cot.

Regards.

SPN
Maldon.

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Received this today. really pleased to have a picture of Charles. Interesting additional details about his job as an "agent" at 143 Queen Street. Not sure what sort of "agent" or what was located at that address (In Glasgow?). Also about his sister "Mrs. Carmichael of Ardmay, Albany Drive, Rutherglen". Charles enlisted under a different number - 6379. He must have seen service abroad post-1/1/1916, was wounded April/May 1917 and KIA during bombing at HQ at Westoutre on 17/4/1918.

Regards.

SPN
Maldon

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There are free downloadable copies of the Glasgow Post Office Directories here:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Glasgow%20Directory

and here:

http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Glasgow

You should be able to find who/what was at 143 Queen Street. Although Rutherglen was not then in Glasgow it did have a separate section in the Glasgow Post Office Directories.

For Mrs Carmichael I would start with the 1911 Census and 1915 Valuation Rolls, both online at Scotlandspeople.

R.

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There are free downloadable copies of the Glasgow Post Office Directories here:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Glasgow%20Directory

and here:

http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Glasgow

You should be able to find who/what was at 143 Queen Street. Although Rutherglen was not then in Glasgow it did have a separate section in the Glasgow Post Office Directories.

For Mrs Carmichael I would start with the 1911 Census and 1915 Valuation Rolls, both online at Scotlandspeople.

R.

Thank you very much R. It looks like 143 was home to 'The India Rubber, Gutta Percha & Telegraph Works'. Excellent.

Regards.

SPN

Maldon

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