ADNIL Posted 28 December , 2014 Share Posted 28 December , 2014 Dear Sirs, I am starting new to research .. as I have been meaning to try and find out further details from an old certificate we have... of an extended family member. We have an old certificate for:- "William Charles Perrett, Wiltshire Regiment, No. 7196, Remembered in Dispatch from Field Marshall Sir Douglas Haig" ... on date _ 16th March 1919. Countersigned and dated 1st July 1919, by Winston Churchill, Secretary of State for War. I know that William Perrett was born in September quarter of 1886 in Andover.If anyone can help _ I would appreciate any advice ... as where to find out more details please ?. Kind regards, Linda 28.12.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 28 December , 2014 Share Posted 28 December , 2014 Hi Linda, According to his Medal Index Card and Medal and Award Rolls he was a Corporal and then a Company Quarter Master Sergeant in the 1st Battalion of the Wiltshires (7th Brigade of the 3rd Division) - with a date of entry into France, landing at Rouen, of 14th August 1914 - making him an 'Old Contemptible'. Research based on this information is possible on the Long, Long Trail website above. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 28 December , 2014 Share Posted 28 December , 2014 He was a 1st Battalion man. In Jan 16 he was a Sjt in A Company and was the acting CQMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrook Posted 28 December , 2014 Share Posted 28 December , 2014 This is the notification of the 'mention' in the London Gazette https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31442/supplement/8704 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeClarke Posted 28 December , 2014 Share Posted 28 December , 2014 Hi Linda He is mentioned once in the War Diary http://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/research/war-diaries/detail/10279 Regards, Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 28 December , 2014 Author Share Posted 28 December , 2014 Thank you all ... I am most grateful for your help Please find attached a certificate which I am trying to find out more details. Your help will really help me try to find out more about the man and his regiment. Kind regards, Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 2 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Hello, I can see that this topic has been tagged ... and do not know why ? Is it because of the connection - that William Charles Perrett has been Remembered in Dispatch please ? Thank you, Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 January , 2015 Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Hi Linda. Further to Graeme's post #5 above, the regimental museum have the war diaries transcribed on the website. However, they haven't transcribed all the appendices. It might be worth downloading the appropriate diary from the National Archive (£3.30). One of my relatives was a sergeant with the battalion, and in the full version of the diary there is a report (as an appendix) which details his actions, and recommends him for a DCM - although it only resulted in a MiD. His actions/death are not recorded in the main part of the diary that the museum have transcribed. HarryBrook (in post #4) has found the Gazette publication for the MiD in 1919. Unfortunately I only have a copy of the diary for August 1914 - October 1915. If there were to be a more about William's actions it might be in this diary: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353185 As a general reference for the 1st Battalion, I was recommended: http://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/shop/books---regimental/the-1st-battalion-the-wiltshire-regiment-in-the-great-war/view Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 2 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Thank you kindly for sharing the 2x extra additional sites ... I am keen to find out more, to honour his memory. Kind regards Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 January , 2015 Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Hi Linda, In the 1911 census he is listed as being with the 1st Battalion in South Africa. http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_34977_0049_35/37354448?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911england%26so%3d2%26pcat%3dROOT_CATEGORY%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26gss%3dangs-g%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsfn_x%3dXO%26gsln%3dperrett%26gsln_x%3dXO%26msbdy%3d1886%26msbdy_x%3d1%26cpxt%3d1%26catBucket%3drstp%26uidh%3drc2%26msbdp%3d1%26cp%3d11&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults He is shown as being a 24 year old Private (Signaller) - born in Tidworth. I think that this ties back to where he grew up. The 1901 and 1891 census returns would appear to have him living in North Tidworth with parents (Charles and Alice), and siblings. His birth place on those returns is shown as Shipton, Hampshire. Shipton (Bellinger) is very near Tidworth, and both fall within the Registration District of Andover you referred to in your original post. Good luck with your research. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 2 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Hello Chris, Your info is correct as we know the family did indeed have connections to the villages you mention. We did not know about him being in a Signaller with the 1st Battalion in South Africa... so this is a welcome piece of the jigsaw for us, Thank you Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac Posted 2 January , 2015 Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Linda A long shot but try going back to the Regimental Museum at the wardrobe www.thewardrobe.org.uk and once there go to RESEARCH/THE COLLECTION and there either put in his name or the number 7211 and you will pick up an image of a sporting team. Rear left is Private PERRETT (No initials) in India 1907. (The battalion went to South Africa from India). Could that be your man ?? Give it a crack, and good hunting Cheers MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 January , 2015 Share Posted 2 January , 2015 Hi Linda, As a pre-war regular I was hoping to find an original attestation for William, but have failed miserably! From his service number (7196) though it would appear that he joined up as a young man (age 18 or 19) sometime between July 1904 and January 1905 - see http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/wiltshire-regiment-1st-2nd-battalions.html (My Great x2 uncle had the number 7269 and attested in March 1905) The only other info. I've found is that William was wounded in 1916 - see http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/united-kingdom-records-in-military-armed-forces-and-conflict?lastname=perrett&soldiernumber=7196 An extract transcript of which is shown below. It appears that he was wounded in the right arm and left hand. I'm not sure what the cause "SW" is though. I had thought that it might stand for "shrapnel wound" or "shell wound", but there are others shown on the same page as "Shp" and "Shell Wd." - hopefully others on the forum may be able to clarify. Evidently he recovered and returned to the unit as his Medal Roll/Medal Index Card shows that he rose in rank to Company Quarter Master Sergeant. I think that it would well be worth you contacting The Wardrobe. When I visited, and on other occasions contacted them by e-mail they were welcoming, and very helpful. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 17 January , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 January , 2015 Hello - Thank you kindly for this update - I will surely try to follow up what SW means. Is there anyone else in the forum that has come across this type of information - to explain it for me please ? Thank you Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADNIL Posted 18 January , 2016 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2016 Hello Does anyone know what the abbreviation "SW" stands for please. Thank you Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 18 January , 2016 Share Posted 18 January , 2016 Hello Does anyone know what the abbreviation "SW" stands for please. Thank you Linda The standard usage is for 'shrapnel wound'. Other variations where used but mean the same thing.Different hands would write it differently. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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