trajan Posted 4 November , 2019 Share Posted 4 November , 2019 On 21/09/2019 at 16:14, themonsstar said: 31st Prussian Regt? I know one of the medal ribbons is the Iron cross 2nd class not sure of the other. The second one is a soldier from the Prussian 107th Regt? A German signals unit On 21/09/2019 at 17:18, GreyC said: ... 2.) NOT Prussian. See cockade . Its the Saxon IR 107 (there was no Prussian 107). Isn't he an 'Einjahrige'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 4 November , 2019 Share Posted 4 November , 2019 On 18/10/2019 at 15:30, Andrew Upton said: According to SoF: https://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ww1-german-halsbinde-halstuch-neck-stock.html "WW1 German Halsbinde Halstuch Neck Stock M1914 Halsbinde Halstuch WW1 German neck stock Made from grey cotton it was used my WW1 German Imperial soldiers to protect their neck from collar rubbing the high collar." And introduced into military 'fashion' by the Roman army in the 1st century AD...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger6 Posted 4 November , 2019 Share Posted 4 November , 2019 2 hours ago, trajan said: Not drill but 'free exercise'! Yes, "Freiübungen" in the sense of gymnastics exercises was used well into the last century, also for school sports and sports clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 4 November , 2019 Share Posted 4 November , 2019 2 hours ago, trajan said: Isn't he an 'Einjahrige'? Yes. See also the saxon (german) cuffs. Interesting the prussian buckle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 5 November , 2019 Share Posted 5 November , 2019 (edited) OK, here is one for you all, a poste cartale dated on the back 1931, and not quite what it seems as I will explain later as I am willing to give one and all a chance at providing an ID... Edited 5 November , 2019 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 5 November , 2019 Share Posted 5 November , 2019 Could it be from Spain or a South American countries 1930s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 6 November , 2019 Share Posted 6 November , 2019 Not bad, but nowhere near close! Nobody else going to have a try? Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 6 November , 2019 Share Posted 6 November , 2019 (edited) The uniform details (Patronentasche M1911, Feldrock) seem to indicate German. Carte Postale - if that´s what is on the back - more towards Austria, Italy or the Balkan. The backdrop is, for 1931 old fashioned. Would indicate Italy/the Balkan to me. The Patronentasche 1911 was used in Finnland after the war, and me thinks also in Latin-America or Meso-America... GreyC Edited 6 November , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 November , 2019 Share Posted 7 November , 2019 Getting warmer! I will reveal all tomorrow, promise! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger6 Posted 8 November , 2019 Share Posted 8 November , 2019 A farfetched try: Could it be a still frame for a war movie, as it looks outdated for 1931 and rather a combination of collectibles, together with the inscription poste cartale which could mean movie poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 8 November , 2019 Share Posted 8 November , 2019 Good one! But no.... This is the back.... Which I haven't had properly translated yet. Yes, I know - the Latin alphabet was adopted in 1928 but people were still writing to each other in Osmanlaci - especially to parents. I suspect it is a post card from a conscript to his parents or other relatives or even to a former comrade or friend. He looks to have S.98/05 on the thing that goes bang, which was certainly in use in the Turkish War of Independence - and after (see below, dated 1927). Now, the big question - is that a brimless helmet or not? The main 'cult'state for the Independence War in Turkey shows guys wearing M16/17 helmets and to to the best of my knowledge that is the only repersentation of these being worn in that war in any media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 Hi Anybody know what these weird Iron cross looking medals are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 Dear Jools, That is a rare Picture. I cannot make out his rank, but he is wearing (somewhat too low) the ribbon bar of EKII (Iron Cross, Second Class: Prussia) and the Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse (War Service Cross, Second Class: Braunschweig) für Kämpfer (for frontline soldiers). The large EKII and KVKII were temporarily "tacked on": probably for the photo with his mother and two sisters. Further down on his chest is the Braunschweig Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse (War Service Cross, First Class: Braunschweig). KVK II: The reverse has 'Für Verdienst im Kriege' (For War Service), and the ribbon is dark blue with yellow stripes left and right. The obverse has a Crown, EA, and 1914. The Second Class of the KVK was inaugurated on 23 January 1914 by Herzog Ernst August of Braunschweig. The First Class of the KVK was inaugurated much later, namely on 20 March 1918, by Ernst August ('EA')... Therefore this obviously brave soldier was almost certainly from Braunschweig and the picture was taken in, say, late 1918. Kindest regards, Kim. Quelle: "Die Orden und Ehrenzeichen der deutschen Bundesstaaten im Weltkrieg 1914-1918". (Melchior Historischer Verlag; Reprint 2011) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 Dear Jools, Here is a scan, for better identification. Kindest regards, Kim. Quelle: "Deutsche Orden und Ehrenzeichen 1800-1945" Jörg Nimmergut (Battenberg Verlag 2010). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 Thanks Kim, that's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 29 November , 2019 Share Posted 29 November , 2019 Dear Jools, It was a pleasure; I was glad to oblige. I have been helped numerous times by stalwart Great War Forum members, and it is nice to be able to reciprocate in some way... Kindest regards, Kim. PS: For your general interest, I attach a picture of my Baden-born wife's maternal grandparents (Leutnant d. R. Rudolf Schneider: right:we possess his medals and documents). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 1 December , 2019 Share Posted 1 December , 2019 On 04/11/2019 at 11:42, trajan said: Isn't he an 'Einjahrige'? Yes... and there were in fact three Saxon 107th infantry regiments: IR 107, RIR 107 and LIR 107. This could conceivably be any of them, though I notice he is not wearing the unique regimental belt buckle of the active IR 107 (this was surely not worn uniformly throughout the regiment in wartime though due to supply problems). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 1 December , 2019 Share Posted 1 December , 2019 (edited) A Saxon Nco, with some sort of merit ribbon and a stick under his chin. Edited 1 December , 2019 by Jools mckenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 3 December , 2019 Share Posted 3 December , 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 22:00, Jools mckenna said: A Saxon Nco, with some sort of merit ribbon and a stick under his chin. My guess is that he belongs to 19. Ersatz-Division, holding the Blamont sector. I have some very similar photos of their trenches ca. summer 1915. This is Ersatz-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 23 (EIR 23), part of the aforementioned division: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 (edited) Not especially for bierast, but with him in mind a photo of a Saxon soldier with interesting belt-buckle and the Prussian ICII with ribbon iworn n Saxon mannner. GreyC Edited 4 December , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 (edited) Hi GreyC The buckle is from saxon Schtz.Rgt.108. Here erroneously worn by a soldier from saxon Pionier-Btl.22 Edited 4 December , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 Thank you Prussian! GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 5 December , 2019 Share Posted 5 December , 2019 18 hours ago, The Prussian said: Hi GreyC The buckle is from saxon Schtz.Rgt.108. Here erroneously worn by a soldier from saxon Pionier-Btl.22 Thankyou for this, I've never seen a photo of a member of another unit wearing the regiment-specific belt buckle of SR 108 (or that of IR 107 for that matter). This is particularly surprising in a home service unit (this is clearly the Ersatz-Bataillon of PB 22, given the use of the old dark green 'colourful' uniform). Here's an image I saved of an original SR 108 buckle for reference: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 December , 2019 Share Posted 7 December , 2019 Always fascinating stuff, Kim, GreyC, Bierast, and the Prussian! I had gathered that some guys would wear a 'national' medal of valour before a Prussian EK, but always good to see confirmation. Those 'Austrian-style- Sacon ribbons were an eye-opener when I first came across them, and still seem that way! The buckle, a completely new one for me, and something to look out for in the future...!!! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 7 December , 2019 Share Posted 7 December , 2019 2 hours ago, trajan said: The buckle, a completely new one for me, and something to look out for in the future...!!! It's yet another uniquely Saxon oddity. The likewise unique belt buckle for IR 107 (which oddly did not have any other particular distinctions, not even a shoulder strap cypher) looked like this: The initials 'JG' are those of the King's brother, Prinz Johann Georg (the chef of IR 107). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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