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3 hours ago, trajan said:

 

Yes! Same one is found in a webpage on him at: https://ww2gravestone.com/people/lieth-thomsen-hermann-von-der/ from which I have copied it for reference. Is yours a postcard?

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My copy is not a postcard back it is just printed on rather flimsy photo paper, 

Chris

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A few more -- studies in overcoats!

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Thanks for all the comments so far!

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and an assortment of groups:

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Some nice details here like the drumstick case, torch and various medals on display

 

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Not much to go on here.

 

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Late war image? with some very young looking soldiers

 

This one is also in the collection but given the cap and collar insignia I am wondering if this is a later Weimar era picture?

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20 minutes ago, 4thGordons said:

A few more -- studies in overcoats!

German-6-17-17w.jpg.062765838c65217cc6d02cf61d059c6b.jpg

 

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Thanks for all the comments so far!

 

1) I think - off the top of my head! - that white piping of epaulletes is for medics?

 

2) Guards - Kaiser Franz Garde-Grenadier Regiment 2? I think they were the only ones without a number in the bottom of the monogram.

 

3) The Litzen say Garde to me, but the lack of a crown suggests a Reserve regiment? Is this also Kaiser Franz Garde-Grenadier Regiment 2?

 

 

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1 hour ago, 4thGordons said:

and an assortment of groups:

German-6-17-21w.thumb.jpg.06eefb2026475e9f2924a46f26462f0f.jpg

 

German-6-17-24w.jpg.4e669bdafceb8790d16ac87279dd4036.jpg

 

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Germans-6-17-34w.thumb.jpg.0706749b020a84b397f544923e0fcf7b.jpg

Some nice details here like the drumstick case, torch and various medals on display

 

Germans-6-17-32w.jpg.9c6c71b5575da1a1995e59a7c2c16452.jpg

Not much to go on here.

 

Germans-6-17-35.jpg.24be7a53aa17a5abd3118e66d2b84f74.jpg

Late war image? with some very young looking soldiers

 

This one is also in the collection but given the cap and collar insignia I am wondering if this is a later Weimar era picture?

German-6-17-30.jpg.051790b7d68237c3211a70bd7a35f4fd.jpg

 

1) No idea!

 

2) A guess - these reservists are training for action (note the board, and the rolled-up epaulettes), and maybe 11th Komp. IR.168 = 5. Großherzoglich-Hessisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr.168? - who did have Brandenburg cuffs without piping

 

3) The ones with the white epaulettes... Maybe Grenadier-Regiment Graf Kleist von Nollendorf (1.Westpreußisches) Nr.6? Or Grenadier-Regiment König Wilhelm I (2.Westpreußisches) Nr.7? A group of brothers with their father (on the left) and younger brother (on the right)?

 

Have to stop there as dinner preparation time over here! And then the big-hitters can come on (Andi and GreyC)....

 

Julian

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Hello!

It´s always difficulty, if there ain´t no close-ups of the shoulder straps.

page 729, #1: He wears the shoulder straps of the Bluse 15, so the white piping stands for infantry

#3: I´d say it´s a K on the shoulder straps, so we should have Kraftfahrer

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18 hours ago, 4thGordons said:

 

Germans-6-17-34w.thumb.jpg.0706749b020a84b397f544923e0fcf7b.jpg

Some nice details here like the drumstick case, torch and various medals on display

 

Germans-6-17-32w.jpg.9c6c71b5575da1a1995e59a7c2c16452.jpg

Not much to go on here.

 

Germans-6-17-35.jpg.24be7a53aa17a5abd3118e66d2b84f74.jpg

Late war image? with some very young looking soldiers

 

This one is also in the collection but given the cap and collar insignia I am wondering if this is a later Weimar era picture?

German-6-17-30.jpg.051790b7d68237c3211a70bd7a35f4fd.jpg

 

No 1 here) Can't quite work out the legend at the bottom right? ??? Arnold, Fuessen??? Anyway, it is early wartime - note the beards, so pre-gas warfare; and they are Bavarians from the size of the lower cockade, and, what I think is the Bavarian blue-white Rautenborte, the collar edging on the one chap here:

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No2 here), Yes, not a lot to go on - but big lower cockades again, so Bavarians?

 

No 3 here). Well, Mondidier is south-east of Amiens as you probably know by now! M.1915 uniforms, and what might just be a 'grenade' over the number '1' on the extreme right epaulette... But I wouldn't push that ID!

 

No 4 here). Well, there is nothing about their uniforms to indicate that they belong to either the Friedensheer or the Vorläufige Reichswehr, and so a date after 1921 seems appropriate, and perhaps substantially after, given the lack of any medals...

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22 hours ago, trajan said:

 

No 1 here) Can't quite work out the legend at the bottom right? ??? Arnold, Fuessen??? Anyway, it is early wartime - note the beards, so pre-gas warfare; and they are Bavarians from the size of the lower cockade, and, what I think is the Bavarian blue-white Rautenborte, the collar edging on the one chap here:

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No2 here), Yes, not a lot to go on - but big lower cockades again, so Bavarians?

 

No 3 here). Well, Mondidier is south-east of Amiens as you probably know by now! M.1915 uniforms, and what might just be a 'grenade' over the number '1' on the extreme right epaulette... But I wouldn't push that ID!

 

No 4 here). Well, there is nothing about their uniforms to indicate that they belong to either the Friedensheer or the Vorläufige Reichswehr, and so a date after 1921 seems appropriate, and perhaps substantially after, given the lack of any medals...

Hello!

To the Reichswehr photo:

They have the eagle-cockade, that was introduced Sept.29, 1919.

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Hello!

I´d like to show a very nice photo from the MG-company of Res.Inf.Rgt.65. The regiment belonged to the 208.Inf.Div.

That division was well-known because of their special unit signs on the left forearm

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208.Inf.Div. (Strichdivision, Res.Inf.Rgt.65, MG08).JPG

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What is German for " Déjà vu :P

 

Got back so might be able to scan some more soon.

These have quite a bit of writing on them but it is hard for me to make out:

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This is printed on a fabric textured type paper

 

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Chris

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, 4thGordons said:

What is German for " Déjà vu :P

 

Got back so might be able to scan some more soon.

These have quite a bit of writing on them but it is hard for me to make out:

Germans-6-17-37w.jpg.5b427fe09b0cbf73dc40b1e901ed18f4.jpg

 

Germans-6-17-38w.jpg.70f647db36d0268d12f508918506b86b.jpg

This is printed on a fabric textured type paper

 

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Chris

 

 

 

Hi Chris!

Deja vu = schon gesehen. But we don´t use the german words. We take Deja vu too

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Germans-6-17-40.jpg.9d4666768f92712fa65668018a632871.jpg

 

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Reverse of marching drummers card

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I suspect these may predate the Great War but might be of related interest to those with knowledge of German/Prussian (or...) awards - and he does have a fine set of whiskers

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Hi!

The Rastatt Card is a congratulation in conjunction with a promotion. Can´t read the rank or position Herr Reger had been promoted to. It is not Feldwebel as in his address. Looks like Vize(musikmeister?)

GreyC

Addition: The Augsburg CDV was taken between 1900 and probably not later than 1905. Konrad Ressler took over in 1900, the design went out of fashion around 1903 to max. 1905 to be succeeded by more Jugendstil influenced designs.

GreyC

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On 09.06.2017 at 17:25, 4thGordons said:

 

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Some nice details here like the drumstick case, torch and various medals on display

 

Got it, I think! "Phot[ografen] Arnold / Füssen" - See, e.g., http://www.pagma-verlag.de/programm/bruno-arnold/  There is a wikki.de article on him, but we can't get wikkipedia in Turkey right now - and have not been able to do so for over a month... That's at: 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Arnold which could be the same as: http://partners.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dewiki/203763

 

Füssen is in Bavaria, in the district of Ostallgäu, which - if I have the above correct - tends to confirm my ID of this lot as Bavarians, as post no. 732... Oh, yes, and mine's a litre of Hofbrauhaus, please! 

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14 hours ago, 4thGordons said:

 

Germans-6-17-37w.jpg.5b427fe09b0cbf73dc40b1e901ed18f4.jpg

 

Germans-6-17-38w.jpg.70f647db36d0268d12f508918506b86b.jpg

This is printed on a fabric textured type paper

 

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1) Well, big lower cockades are usually Bavarian, and so these 'old bones' from a Jaeger Bat. on trench-digging duties at Neuville are - I guess - one or other of the Kgl. Bayer. 1. Jäger-Bataillon or the  Kgl. Bayer. 2. Jäger-Bataillon

 

2) Not much to go on, and I cannot locate a Reuterbrücke that might be relevant - but lower cockades are big, and so...!!!

 

3) Another bunch of bif lower cockades asnd so - you've guessed it - Bavarians...

 

Chris, did all of these come in a  group from a Bavarian-based dealer?

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14 hours ago, 4thGordons said:

Germans-6-17-40.jpg.9d4666768f92712fa65668018a632871.jpg

 

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Reverse of marching drummers card

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1) These are Lanstrum men aren't they? 89th Infanterie Brigade? See also: https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/6843370423 Note the muzzle cap covers! 

 

2) No idea on those collars but the cap bands and the uniforms suggests Etappe personnel (REMFU's!) to me... 

 

3) Prussian Wappen?

 

4/5) I wonder if the Roman numerals at the head of the boards are AK numbers?

 

 

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14 hours ago, 4thGordons said:

I suspect these may predate the Great War but might be of related interest to those with knowledge of German/Prussian (or...) awards - and he does have a fine set of whiskers

Germans6-17-44w.jpg.a1c72684266ea71af33689051783a48a.jpg

 

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13 hours ago, GreyC said:

... The Augsburg CDV was taken between 1900 and probably not later than 1905. Konrad Ressler took over in 1900, the design went out of fashion around 1903 to max. 1905 to be succeeded by more Jugendstil influenced designs....

 

Bottom right looks to be a  Ehrenzeichen für Mitglieder der Feuerwehren nach 25 jähriger Dienstzeit - see: http://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/ehrenzeichen-fur-mitglieder-der-feuerwehren-nach-25-jahriger-dienstzeit.html

 

No idea on any others except top left clearly Bavarian...

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On 6/13/2017 at 02:41, trajan said:

Chris, did all of these come in a  group from a Bavarian-based dealer?

 

Sorry I missed this Julian - no - they came (oddly) from Canada - from a dealer who appears to sell mostly 3rd Reich stuff. Given the rather eclectic nature of these and the fact that they were pretty cheap I suspect that perhaps it was an accumulation of German images that had been acquired while in search of later pictures and then sold on in bulk as not being of particular interest/his primary focus.

 

I many now have time to digitise a few more.

Chris

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Hi,

I´d second Julian on the Feuerwehr-Dienstauszeichnung and add that the square award next to it is a military Dienstauszeichnung. The one with the clasps is from 1870/71 and they denote the battles he participated in. On the other side on the lapel with the long bow could be a pin of a regimental reunion or anniversary.

GreyC

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Thanks for that addition.

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Nothing on the back of any of these

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this last one is interesting as they appear to be wearing their shoulder-boards (couple of different designs) as ID badges buttoned to the front of their coveralls Scissors and Iron - Tailors? Or perhaps just fatigue duty?

Chris

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Hi Chris,

for me as an old man it´s a bit hard to read but I think it says that what we see here are some of the tailors of Infanterie Regiment 168 in 1916. It was a regiment from Hessen and in 1916 deployed in Sedan, Argonnen and Verdun.

GreyC

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On 7/8/2017 at 23:54, 4thGordons said:

 

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Can't quite work out the shoulderboard of the man 'playing' the urine collection bottle, seated on the right but it is the Reserve Lazarett Dillenberg, Hessen, Room 8 - what a fun picture with spoof instruments. Now go to: http://vhrz259.hrz.uni-marburg.de/de/subjects/xsrec/id/137/current/4/pageSize/40/sn/qhg?q=YToxOntzOjExOiJzYWNoYmVncmlmZiI7czoyODoiNDE2NTY4MS03OktyaWVnc2Jlc2Now6RkaWd0ZSI7fQ==

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On 7/8/2017 at 23:54, 4thGordons said:

Nothing on the back of any of these

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Double litzen with Swedish cuffs and an 'R' monogrammed epaulette should be straightforward, especially as these guys have big Bavarian-type lower cockades, and as Pschorr is a Munich brewery... But I have not been able to identify who they are from my limited library. Note, though, the lack of the Bavarian blue-white collar-edging which suggests this is pre-October 1916, when that was introduced - as I understand it! Of course, these could be older uniforms worn as late as 1917-1918... I like the price of the 'thin' beer though - excellent on a day like this here in Ankara, at 34 deg.! 

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