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The Butcher Brothers - ANZAC


Sparks7882

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Good afternoon all.

Having done some further digging on my family tree and following your awesome replies to my last post I wonder if I could ask the same for the below.

There are 2 brothers of Albert Butcher (my last thread)

Henry John Butcher - 13th Light Horse Regiment ANZAC - SERN 1540

Ernest Arthur Butcher of 19th Battalion ANZAC SERN 5149

I have been able to get some information from discoveringanzacs.naa and its great as any ANZAC history is freely available online.. however I haven't been able to piece the bits together (ie where they served) I know that Ernest was discharged with Shellshock but Im not sure how to trace their regiments movements or decifer their records clearly.

Can you help again?

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Are you sure they were brothers?????

1540 Harry Butcher Father, R. Butcher, 1 Pretoria Cottage, Britannia Road, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

5149 Ernest Arthur BUTCHER Mother Mrs S Butcher, Holton, Halsworth, Suffolk, England

From the AIP PRoject

http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=41258

http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=41241

Ken

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Hi

War diaries here - http://www.awm.gov.au/units/ww1/ , you can find which battalion from their service records, then click on the appropriate ones, which gives a summary of their actions. The actual diaries are on links at the bottom of each page.

As to understanding their records, you need to tell us what you don't understand.

regards

Robert

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For Ernest Butcher a look through the book the "Fighting Nineteenth" by David Wilson may answer your questions about his movements with the battalion.

David Wilson gave a good talk earlier in the year at Mosman and you can find his presentation slides here-

http://mosman1914-1918.net/project/blog/the-19th-infantry-battalion-aif-powerpoint-presentation-by-david-Wilson

Scott

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This is going to seem like a silly comment, but have you looked at their service records on http://www.naa.gov.au, they contain details of where and when they served, and details of casualty.

Mark

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Hi all.

Thank you for the new sites to look at. I am under the impression they were brothers as this is on the census reports and on our family tree too.

Thank you BFBSM I did look and see some information on there but I don't quite understand the references etc.

Could I post on here and could someone help? Im totally new to this but already hooked.

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Post away Sparks7882. Everybody is always willing to help.

Mark

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Just one simple tip to start you off - when you look at the two sheets in #9 be aware that the date in the 1st column is the date when the clerk filling in the sheet received the report.

The 2nd column states from whom the report was received.

In order to work out a casualty's timeline you must use the information in the Place and Date columns.

CGM

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HI

Nothing to really concern yourself with - army references for the paperwork for all the details that are recorded in his files. The army runs on regulations and paperwork and everything had to be documented.

What you need to focus on is units, records places and dates, they give the story.

regards

Robert

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For EA Butcher, let me add my recommendation of David Wilson's Fighting Nineteenth. I've just looked for Butcher's name in my copy and while there is no mention, it is a well written book that will give you a good description of every place he served at. The author is reasonably active on this forum, should you have specific questions.

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