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Can anyone help please? I am trying to locate the medal index card of Pte. (Dvr) Thomas William Heath (also took on Heathwoor Heath/Woor Heathmoor throughout his service) he was In the Army Service Corps and his Army number appears to be M2/100634 (I already have his service papers) he was convicted of an army felony on 4 March 1919 at Central Criminal Court in London and sent to Wandsworth. Could he have been stripped of his medals or didn't recieve any (no mention of this in his service papers)

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Liam

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Any medals would be forfeited on account of a seviceman's conviction and imprisonment, even if his offence was committed after his discharge from the army, although The army seemed to change its stance on this at some stage in the early 1920's. In the case that this man's medals had been confiscated he would still have a Medal Index Card, which would record the reason why his medals weren't issued (or that they were issued and then confiscated). If you haven't found one under any of the names that he appears to have used, then he probably didn't serve overseas.

What was he convicted of?

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Hi Liam

If you have his papers, did he definitely serve overseas ??

Regards,

Graeme

Hi Graeme,

As far as I can see he he didn't serve abroad,(may be some pages missing) I am not sure what he was convicted of as yet just says "felony" he was a Driver

Liam

Any medals would be forfeited on account of a seviceman's conviction and imprisonment, even if his offence was committed after his discharge from the army, although The army seemed to change its stance on this at some stage in the early 1920's. In the case that this man's medals had been confiscated he would still have a Medal Index Card, which would record the reason why his medals weren't issued (or that they were issued and then confiscated). If you haven't found one under any of the names that he appears to have used, then he probably didn't serve overseas.

What was he convicted of?

Not sure of offence as yet, cannot find a mic for him, using above number can anyone help?

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He was tried at the Central Criminal Court (the Old Bailey), so that suggest two things; it was a civil offence, so presumably he was a civilian at the time that he committed the offence. And it must have been a reasonably serious offence.

As it was at the Old Bailey, there's a pretty good chance that it'll be reported on in the National papers (almost certainly in his local paper, too). Also, the court reports might tell you something about his service. And if you post what details you know about him it might be possible to help you further.

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He was tried at the Central Criminal Court (the Old Bailey), so that suggest two things; it was a civil offence, so presumably he was a civilian at the time that he committed the offence. And it must have been a reasonably serious offence.

As it was at the Old Bailey, there's a pretty good chance that it'll be reported on in the National papers (almost certainly in his local paper, too). Also, the court reports might tell you something about his service. And if you post what details you know about him it might be possible to help you further.

This is what I know about him

Thomas William Heath born 1889 Great Brickhill Bucks

married Nellie Gascoyne 1909 Bedford

Lived at 31 Petley Road, Hammersmith

Attested 22/5/15

Joined at Grove Park 23/5/15

Under arrest 18/2/19

On Bail 25/2/19

Convicted of a felony at Central Criminal Court 4/3/19 - sent forthwith to Wandsworth for 12 Months

Discharged under para 392 (x) KR auth WO/105/Misc/2180 (A.G.3.) D. 9 May 1919

Having been convicted by the civil power of Felony (Pte. 23/5/1919)

Home from 22/5/15 to 23/5/19

Total Service towards engagement - 23/5/19 - Date of Discharge 4 years and 2 days

Total Service towards pension - - 23/5/19 - Date of Discharge 3 years and 279 days

CRO/36493/No1717

After these dates He's no where to be found, no exact death can be found.

Liam

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He was also known as William Thomas Heath/Heathmoor/Heathwoor/Heath/Woor

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OOOOOO I have just found this on Findmypast!

Liam

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Private T.W. heathmoor, 100634, A.S.C. did not qualify for any medals because he did not serve overseas. He was a fitter who served at Grove Park and Camberwell, London, from May 1915 until discharged in 1919. To qualify for campaign medals a man had to serve overseas in a theatre of war. His service record showed he only served at "Home".
Second division prisoners were kept apart from more serious classes of offenders. They received more frequent letters and visits and they wore clothes of a different colour.

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