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Richard Knock army numbers


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Richard Knock started off in the Leicestershire Yeomanry (No. 255863).

He was then possibly wounded and sent to the Labour Corps (No, 478228)

He ended up in the 45 Royal Fusiliers (No. GS/125844)

The above in formation is on the MIC. His service record has not survived.

Is anyone able to suggest, from the numbers, when he joined the different regiments? Or where I could look to find out?

Many thanks

Marigold

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The yeomanry number comes from 6 digit serial numbers created after the renumber of the Territorial Force in 1917. There is information here:

http://www.1914-1918.net/renumbering.htm

There should be information about the Labour Corps numbers in a book called "No Labour, No Battle".

There may be information about the RF serial numbers on this site:

http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.co.uk/

I think there is also some information on the Long Long Trail (link above).

R.

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Marigold

He would have gone to war with 1/1 Leicestershire Yeomanry. This unit landed in France on 3 Nov 1914 but he didn't land there until after 1915 until he was in possession of the 1917 re-number (this unit series was 255001 to 260000 and would also have been used for 2/1 and 3/1 units which served at Home ),it may of course have been his first number if he hadn't yet joined when the numbers were allocated,which may have been in late 1916,as I have read somewhere that some new Army numbers were issued then. Previous numbers were only 4 digit. A man with the name and born in Runcorn was 19 in the 1911 Census,is that him ? He was actually a visitor to a Welsh town on Census day. No clue as to the date of number issue. I am thinking that the unit war diaires may have some info on troop ins and outs and have seen nominal rolls in some Yeomanry diaries,so might be worth a look. If you fancy paying two batches of £3.30 they are yours from the Discovery database:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351544 when with 7 Cav Bde of 3 Cav Division,and,

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351551 when with 8 Cav Bde of 3 Cav Div.

Later duty with the Labour Corps may be unlocked by Rolt's suggestion.

45 Battalion Royal Fusiliers are shown in the LLT as being formed in London in April 1919 and posted to North Russia,they were disbanded in Dec 1919.

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He would have gone to war with 1/1 Leicestershire Yeomanry. This unit landed in France on 3 Nov 1914 but he didn't land there until after 1915 until he was in possession of the 1917 re-number (this unit series was 255001 to 260000 and would also have been used for 2/1 and 3/1 units which served at Home ),it may of course have been his first number if he hadn't yet joined when the numbers were allocated,which may have been in late 1916,as I have read somewhere that some new Army numbers were issued then. Previous numbers were only 4 digit. A man with the name and born in Runcorn was 19 in the 1911 Census,is that him ? He was actually a visitor to a Welsh town on Census day. No clue as to the date of number issue. I am thinking that the unit war diaires may have some info on troop ins and outs and have seen nominal rolls in some Yeomanry diaries,so might be worth a look. If you fancy paying two batches of £3.30 they are yours from the Discovery database:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351544 when with 7 Cav Bde of 3 Cav Division,and,

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351551 when with 8 Cav Bde of 3 Cav Div.

Later duty with the Labour Corps may be unlocked by Rolt's suggestion.

45 Battalion Royal Fusiliers are shown in the LLT as being formed in London in April 1919 and posted to North Russia,they were disbanded in Dec 1919.

The last might explain the GS prefix which stands for "General Service" if I remember rightly.

R.

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I have found my copy of No Labour, No battle.

The numbers from 394500 to 4849000 were allocated from October 1917 to January 1918. All things being equal, which they weren't always, 478228 would have been allocated near the end of the period.

R.

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Marigold

No nominal rolls for these boys of the Leics Yeo in either of the War Diaries. The only mustering activity seemed to be at month end when both Diaries listed the strength by numbers,ins and outs,sick wounded killed etc. Hardly any names anywhere !

Worth a look though

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