Admin ss002d6252 Posted 4 November , 2014 Admin Share Posted 4 November , 2014 This is an item I stumbled across whilst looking for something else - it's the first time I can recall seeing anything in writing regarding the re-enlistment of men previously released as not likely to be efficient soldiers. It could certainly explain some of the re-enlistments I've seen in the past. 2 July 1915 Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 4 November , 2014 Share Posted 4 November , 2014 Surprising at first sight, but using such men in static defences, guarding vulnerable points etc would have released efficient soldiers for use at the front. It is similar to the use of medically downgraded men for comparable purposes. At that date, what would later become Labour Corps units were being formed as Labour battalions of infantry regiments. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin ss002d6252 Posted 4 November , 2014 Author Admin Share Posted 4 November , 2014 I agree - logically it makes perfect sense to free men up but it's the first time I can recall seeing it in writing. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 4 November , 2014 Share Posted 4 November , 2014 This is an item I stumbled across whilst looking for something else - it's the first time I can recall seeing anything in writing regarding the re-enlistment of men previously released as not likely to be efficient soldiers. It could certainly explain some of the re-enlistments I've seen in the past. 2 July 1915 2 July 1915.JPG Craig A very interesting piece, but was it actually put into place? I have recently done a trawl of those of the 22nd Bn, N.F., who aren't on the Medal Rolls and who were Discharged under KR Para(iii)c/Medically Unfit, with the added sentence "as not likely to become an efficient soldier" and of about 100 found todate, only one has re-enlisted and that was into the Labour Corps after its formation. Considering the date of the article it was the Royal Defence Corps, which eventually took on the Home Defence role and many of the men in its ranks were former front line soldiers who had been medically downgraded and who would never return to the Front. So you have to wonder did this Corps take on previously Discharged men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin ss002d6252 Posted 4 November , 2014 Author Admin Share Posted 4 November , 2014 A very interesting piece, but was it actually put into place? I have recently done a trawl of those of the 22nd Bn, N.F., who aren't on the Medal Rolls and who were Discharged under KR Para(iii)c/Medically Unfit, with the added sentence "as not likely to become an efficient soldier" and of about 100 found todate, only one has re-enlisted and that was into the Labour Corps after its formation. Considering the date of the article it was the Royal Defence Corps, which eventually took on the Home Defence role and many of the men in its ranks were former front line soldiers who had been medically downgraded and who would never return to the Front. So you have to wonder did this Corps take on previously Discharged men? That's a point to consider re it's implementation - I've seen a few cases which may fall under this but not any great number which your research also seems to confirm, if it was implemented then there were no huge influx of men. The RDC would certainly fit the job description of these men. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin ss002d6252 Posted 5 November , 2014 Author Admin Share Posted 5 November , 2014 Further reports clarify it was men to fill 'garrison companies' Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Black Posted 24 December , 2014 Share Posted 24 December , 2014 A very interesting piece, but was it actually put into place? I have recently done a trawl of those of the 22nd Bn, N.F., who aren't on the Medal Rolls and who were Discharged under KR Para(iii)c/Medically Unfit, with the added sentence "as not likely to become an efficient soldier" and of about 100 found todate, only one has re-enlisted and that was into the Labour Corps after its formation. Considering the date of the article it was the Royal Defence Corps, which eventually took on the Home Defence role and many of the men in its ranks were former front line soldiers who had been medically downgraded and who would never return to the Front. So you have to wonder did this Corps take on previously Discharged men? I have a few men who are listed in a 1914 Star roll as "discharged Medically Unfit" very early in the war, but are absent from the V&BWM roll, should i be searching for them on the RDC roll? I thought yu qualified for the Victory medal if you received a Star? Too early for SWB, but their MIC only gives the one medal, is that right or am i missing them somewhere else? Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 24 December , 2014 Share Posted 24 December , 2014 Derek I'm not a medal expert by any means, but I think there were separate MIC for the Stars and for the BWM and VM. Have you tried looking for another card? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1620 Posted 24 December , 2014 Share Posted 24 December , 2014 I can see that many medical situations would compromise the ability to be an efficient soldier. But the category also seems to be used as catch-all where all definable medical conditions have been exhausted. I would be interested if anyone has any wartime figures, all I can offer is the 10-year period before. Although Item 20 covers intelligence, I suspect that non-efficient soldiering could also include a less tangeable "dullness" aluded to in this WW2 publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2014 Author Admin Share Posted 25 December , 2014 General Annual Return 1913-1919 Men discharged as not likely become efficent Yr to 30 Sep 15107,229 menYr to 30 Sep 1629,879 menYr to 30 Sep 172,188 menYr to 30 Sep 18749 men Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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