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John Malone 3230 Gordon Highlanders


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Happy Halloween,

Looking for information or details around John Malone, 3230 who was part of the 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders. He was killed near

Wytschaete in December 1914, as far as I'm aware during the attack on Petit Bois and noted by Billy Congreve.

Born in 1885 in Dundee.

Would I be right in thinking he was a reservist before the war due to his Service Number?

Any information on when/where he joined, service records etc as I have struggled to find any? Also am I correct in thinking he was killed during that specific attack?

Many thanks

Andy

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The medal rolls give his number as S/3230.

I'm no expert on service numbers but someone who knows the GH numbers will no doubt be able to tell you more.

Bob.

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No expert either but the nearest numbers in the SWB lists are:

S/3203 enlisted 01.09.14

S/3263 enlisted 03.09.14

Re. Gordon Highlander numbering you might like to look at this

Mike

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He went to France on 8 November 1914 and was a L/Cpl by the time he died. I wonder if he had some other previous military experience or was a special reservist?

R.

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From what I could find through the census he was working in a Jute Mill in 1911. No other details I'm afraid that I could find just now, will keep looking.

Andy

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Could he maybe have had a field promotion? Is it possible since he enlisted as a private and as far as Im aware, had no previous military experience or specialism? I know the war diary around this time was patchwork to say the least but would there have been any mentions?

Andy

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In answer to your last question, "am I correct in thinking he was killed during that specific attack?"

In all likelihood, yes.

The 1st Gordon Highlanders War Diary is available from the National Archives under reference WO 95/1421.

There are pages and pages of it relating to that day as it was a major action.

I say "in all likelihood" simply because whilst many from the 1st GH did die that day in that attack, one can never be 100% certain he was in it. He could, for example, have been a runner behind the lines and killed by a stray shell. In legal parlance, it's not "beyond all reasonable doubt" but definitely "the balance of probabilities"!

Bob.

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Thanks folks, I'll try and get hold of the diary to have a read about it.

Am I correct though with my other thought that he could have been made up to L/Cpl due to the high casualty rates at the time?

Andy

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Thanks folks, I'll try and get hold of the diary to have a read about it.

Am I correct though with my other thought that he could have been made up to L/Cpl due to the high casualty rates at the time?

Andy

Perhaps? Equally, though, he might well have been a thoroughly decent sort of chap who looked like he might do well as an NCO!

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Having read through the diary, unfortunatley no mention of him being promoted, which is a shame but fascinating reading, especially in the build-up to the attack and the offensive itself.

Andy

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