Sheddie Posted 31 October , 2014 Share Posted 31 October , 2014 Hello, I'm trying to find the exact trench location of the 8th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles on 7th June 1917. I know they were somewhere close to these lat-long coordinates: 50.769238, 2.861271. My Grandfather, Albert Edward Todd was a 19 year old 2nd Lieutenant there. The war record says "6th june 17 At 9:30pm the Battalion paraded (were very happy) and moved off by platoon at two minute intervals to the assembly trenches just behind the front line trenches at L 35.d and L 36.C ( Ref. WYTCHAETE .28.SW2. Edi. 5A). where the remainder of bombs, bomb carriers etc. were issued to all ranks. The men were remarkably cheery. At 3:10am the Attack began. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneca Posted 31 October , 2014 Share Posted 31 October , 2014 (edited) Hi Sheddie, if it will help I can let you have a Summary of the Offensive Operations of the 8th Bn. on 7th June but the 3 pages are too big to upload. Anne PS I think you may already have this summary. Edited 31 October , 2014 by anneca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 31 October , 2014 Share Posted 31 October , 2014 If all else fails: http://bookshop.nationalarchives.gov.uk/9780947752279/Trench-Map-%3A-Wytschaete-28-SW2-Edition-6A/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheddie Posted 1 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2014 Hi Anneca Yep, your right I have it already thanks to a very nice person who sent me the disc Many thanks for the offer Eddie Thanks for the link Sotonmate. It may come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeveH Posted 1 November , 2014 Share Posted 1 November , 2014 Hi all, Apologies for butting in on this thread and extending the scope slightly. I have a keen interest in the Battle of Messines where my great uncle was killed in action, and I'm continually looking to build upon my knowledge - in particular anything to do with 10/Royal Irish Rifles. I have the Battalion War Diary and several trench maps covering the area, but would the Summary of the Offensive Operations referred to in an earlier post by Anneca be the account contained within the diary - or is that from another source? Many thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneca Posted 1 November , 2014 Share Posted 1 November , 2014 Hi all, Apologies for butting in on this thread and extending the scope slightly. I have a keen interest in the Battle of Messines where my great uncle was killed in action, and I'm continually looking to build upon my knowledge - in particular anything to do with 10/Royal Irish Rifles. I have the Battalion War Diary and several trench maps covering the area, but would the Summary of the Offensive Operations referred to in an earlier post by Anneca be the account contained within the diary - or is that from another source? Many thanks Steve Hi Steve, the Summary of the Offensive Operations on 7th June 1917 which I referred to is contained within the War Diaries of the 8th Bn. PM me if you do not already have this. Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel9 Posted 1 November , 2014 Share Posted 1 November , 2014 Try McMaster too - http://lt1.mcmaster.ca/ww1/wrz4mp.php?grid=28 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheddie Posted 1 November , 2014 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2014 Hi John, Many many thanks for the McMaster link, terrific maps. Now I have a really good idea where the German and Irish trenches where though I'm still hunting for the precise location of the 8th bat RIR. Great stuff. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeveH Posted 3 November , 2014 Share Posted 3 November , 2014 Hi Anneca, PM sent. Many thanks. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconvilleliam Posted 14 November , 2014 Share Posted 14 November , 2014 i was wondering why my gran father started of in the Irish rifles then transferred into the royal Irish fusiliers the labour core I have some numbers might mean something any help would be great p8573 gs102045 labour 518070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterlad2 Posted 15 November , 2014 Share Posted 15 November , 2014 Hi mcconvilleliam. Welcome to the forum. I tried running those numbers but got no joy. Can you give us his name as well please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west coast Posted 15 November , 2014 Share Posted 15 November , 2014 Hi all, Apologies for butting in on this thread and extending the scope slightly. I have a keen interest in the Battle of Messines where my great uncle was killed in action, and I'm continually looking to build upon my knowledge - in particular anything to do with 10/Royal Irish Rifles. I have the Battalion War Diary and several trench maps covering the area, but would the Summary of the Offensive Operations referred to in an earlier post by Anneca be the account contained within the diary - or is that from another source? Many thanks Steve hi steve, just thought I`d put this up for you, I bought it in Dublin some years ago, lots of dings on it ,action damage?? the cords are my addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeveH Posted 19 November , 2014 Share Posted 19 November , 2014 What a lovely piece of history. Thanks for posting West Coast. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 20 November , 2014 Share Posted 20 November , 2014 I think the bugle may well be a tourist- gift shop type item. You may wish to post your pictures in the uniform and equipment section of the forum. Regards, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west coast Posted 21 November , 2014 Share Posted 21 November , 2014 thanks paul, deffo not gift type , its got age all over it [ I do know the cheap imitations you mean]. cheers, mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 3 December , 2014 Share Posted 3 December , 2014 I was concerned regards the font used for regiment details- and no mentioned of makers details. You own and have the item in hand though, and sounds like you have done your research - and if you are 100% happy that fine. Regards, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west coast Posted 5 December , 2014 Share Posted 5 December , 2014 thank you paul for your reply. as you say I have the item in hand and can see and examine easier than a pic, I am no expert by any means and I bow to your most likely knowledge, but just comparing the bugle to others I have ,there is a marked difference in weight and 'robustness', it also has a turned down collar on the 'pipe' where the mouthpiece fits, this is to prevent splitting . I can`t comment on the regimental font/stamping as I know zilch on r.i.rif ,[Dublin fus is my main interest]. ...thanks again for your interest....ps it still blows . mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheddie Posted 23 December , 2014 Author Share Posted 23 December , 2014 Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a transcribed (text version) version of the war diaries of the 8th battalion Royal Irish Rifles? I was kindly given photos of the handwritten, which are great, but a text version would be easily searchable. Thanks Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertbarrie96 Posted 23 February , 2017 Share Posted 23 February , 2017 (edited) Hi all, Does anyone have War Diary info for the 8th Battalion during October 1917? The only version I have goes up to September, but I'm pretty sure my great grandather won his MC in October so I'd love to see the offensive/operation it was gained in. Also, I have a picture of my great granfather in uniform but was wondering if theres a photo of the 8th Battalion together, that would be wonderful. Many thanks in advance Rob Edited 23 February , 2017 by robertbarrie96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 23 February , 2017 Share Posted 23 February , 2017 52 minutes ago, robertbarrie96 said: Hi all, Does anyone have War Diary info for the 8th Battalion during October 1917? The only version I have goes up to September, but I'm pretty sure my great grandather won his MC in October so I'd love to see the offensive/operation it was gained in. Also, I have a picture of my great granfather in uniform but was wondering if theres a photo of the 8th Battalion together, that would be wonderful. Many thanks in advance Rob Also posted as post #13 in this thread Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickLeeds Posted 23 February , 2017 Share Posted 23 February , 2017 1 hour ago, robertbarrie96 said: Hi all, Does anyone have War Diary info for the 8th Battalion during October 1917? The only version I have goes up to September, but I'm pretty sure my great grandather won his MC in October so I'd love to see the offensive/operation it was gained in. Also, I have a picture of my great granfather in uniform but was wondering if theres a photo of the 8th Battalion together, that would be wonderful. Many thanks in advance Rob Hello Rob. I have the 8th Bn diary for Oct 1917. If you PM me your e-mail address I'll send it to you by tomorrow. (My grandfather and his older brother were both in the 8th Bn.) Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertbarrie96 Posted 26 February , 2017 Share Posted 26 February , 2017 On 23. 2. 2017 at 21:11, MickLeeds said: Hello Rob. I have the 8th Bn diary for Oct 1917. If you PM me your e-mail address I'll send it to you by tomorrow. (My grandfather and his older brother were both in the 8th Bn.) Mick. Hi Mick, email is robertbarrie96@yahoo.co.uk Thank you so much for offering to send it. I've only been researching my great grandfather properly for a week now but I've so many friendly and helpful fellow descendants from the 8th Royal Ir. Rif. I read some of the war diary and I felt like I was there alonside my great grandfather in the trenches. May I ask another question, do you know if there are any photos of the 8th Batallion? Possibly one's with the officers or any for that matter. Thanks again for your help. Also thanks again @clk for helping me with this, much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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