spud4210 Posted 23 March , 2016 Share Posted 23 March , 2016 If he was employed by MN then no star, if he was RNR or RN then star. Ancestry have the RN/RNR papers and medal rolls Thanks Craig that will clear up any issues paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Banx Posted 23 May , 2016 Share Posted 23 May , 2016 Hi gents, Trying to find out the location for these medals which I believe were issue to my Great Uncle, if you can give me some idea of how to go about it , or explain the card it would be greatly apreciated Rob http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1262/30850_A000385-02060?pid=4410422&backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3dtry%26db%3dMedalRolls%26h%3d4410422&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin kenf48 Posted 23 May , 2016 Admin Share Posted 23 May , 2016 As on your previous post the guide to interpreting the medal index card is on the LLT http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/interpretmic.html As he was still serving when the medals were issued the card shows that his 'war' medals were applied for and sent to the Rhine Garrison, Cologne where he was serving at the time I.e. In 1920 Perhaps if you have look at the guide and then ask specific questions as to what you don't understand we might help you more. In the meantime 'IV' is issue voucher showing the medals were issued as previously noted. The 14 Star IV dated 17.11.1920; the 'war medals' issued 17/11/1920; the emblems fo his mentions on the same date ( two one for the riband one for the medal ribbon) and the clasp and roses on 24/5/1921. In other words his medals were claimed and were issued and therefore unlikely or the MOD will consider a reissue, in any event they would make little sense without his other decorations and awards. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 23 May , 2016 Share Posted 23 May , 2016 Just had my great grandfathers victory medal issued, now need to find his1914 star and war medal Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 23 May , 2016 Share Posted 23 May , 2016 (edited) Hi Rob I presume you have traced your family tree, he was awarded an OBE and died 18th July 1960 probate to Isabella Mary Cranston, spinster on 28th September. The Cranston family tree would be the place to look and speak to the relatives, or is it your tree? I see you already have this photo in another thread! Regards Barry Edited 23 May , 2016 by The Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Banx Posted 23 May , 2016 Share Posted 23 May , 2016 Ken, Mr Inspector, Thanks for your reply, apologies for being dense, recently getting into all this, since sorting my late fathers estate, I found WJCs cap badge from the royal scots greys, and a handwritten letter ( Routine Order number 319) RE: Duties, Cash, Court Martial, fires in billets, Parades, dated August 1917 which also included an apreciation letter to WJC, signatures on the letter are, Col A M Forbes Lt D R Martin P D Morrison Major T Dunne R S Kentish ***** Lleterson Kelso cant quite make out Titles. Thanks again... Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 27 May , 2016 Share Posted 27 May , 2016 Hi All GOOD NEWS! Just spoken to the Historic Army Medal Assessor at the MOD who informed me he had approved the issue of my grandfather's BWM. He has been extremely helpful but was not aware of the meaning of the abbreviations 'F' and 'R' on the Naval Medal Award Rolls until I sent him a link to the National Archives and ADM171. If anyone applying for medals has the same set of circumstances as I did then I suggest they send as much information as possible and then speak to the Assessor. He was very appreciative indeed and no doubt will inform his colleagues which should speed up the process for others. Decision in less than 2 months. Will update when medal arrives. Regards Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Banx Posted 27 May , 2016 Share Posted 27 May , 2016 Hi All GOOD NEWS! Just spoken to the Historic Army Medal Assessor at the MOD who informed me he had approved the issue of my grandfather's BWM. He has been extremely helpful but was not aware of the meaning of the abbreviations 'F' and 'R' on the Naval Medal Award Rolls until I sent him a link to the National Archives and ADM171. If anyone applying for medals has the same set of circumstances as I did then I suggest they send as much information as possible and then speak to the Assessor. He was very appreciative indeed and no doubt will inform his colleagues which should speed up the process for others. Decision in less than 2 months. Will update when medal arrives. Regards Barry Barry, really well done, glad for you, and no doubt this will help others Regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 1 June , 2016 Share Posted 1 June , 2016 Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 1 June , 2016 Share Posted 1 June , 2016 Great news have just received my great grandfathers victory medal as it was not issued. I have now received my great great uncles pair Trying to locate my other great grandfathers service to see if he claimed his medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 1 June , 2016 Share Posted 1 June , 2016 Nice one James, well worth the effort Regards Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 1 June , 2016 Share Posted 1 June , 2016 Could not get his clasp as I could not prove he was under fire between the dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Inspector Posted 20 July , 2016 Share Posted 20 July , 2016 Hi All My grandfather's BWM arrived from the MOD this morning, without this forum I wouldn't have had a clue about it...thanks to everybody!!!! Regards Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon66 Posted 5 May , 2017 Share Posted 5 May , 2017 Thank you both I'm hoping I can get them lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmfinch Posted 6 September , 2017 Share Posted 6 September , 2017 You most certainly can apply for returned WW1 medals....if you are the next of kin or have written permission from the next of kin. You need to download the application form off the MOD website. I have just successfully done it. V/R Wayne Finch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 6 September , 2017 Share Posted 6 September , 2017 Policy changed few months ago. Only legal nok can apply i applied for my gt uncle ww2 arctic star with written approval of nok, I got a reply back stating he was entitled but I had to submit a new form and only the nok could apply, she could then hand over the medal to me but they couldn't accept a written instruction authorising me to claim on her behalf regards james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 5 November , 2018 Share Posted 5 November , 2018 I found this thread whilst researching the subject and wondered if anyone has knowledge of the current situation? My wife's great-uncle was killed in 1917. His BWM and Victory Medals were issued, but then stolen, recovered (offender charged) and returned to the Medal Office. All of this is documented within his service papers, including an acknowledgement of receipt by the Medal Office. There are no annotations to the Medal Roll nor the Medal Index Card. The family did not get the medals re-issued, so what are our chances of getting them re-issued to NOK? Any recent experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 5 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 5 November , 2018 Hi, It’ll cost nothing to apply so I’d give it a go with a covering letter and copy documents. Good Luck. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 5 November , 2018 Share Posted 5 November , 2018 Apply with all the copied correspondence proving they were returned. good luck not sure when they will stop this service as they only changed the rules in 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trench whistle Posted 6 November , 2018 Share Posted 6 November , 2018 (edited) On 07/03/2016 at 11:38, james_harvey said: One last word of warning. When the medals arrive you need to sign a declaration saying you will not sell them, if you do sell them you can be prosecuted. I suppose this is to stop people making a quick profit and if for genuine family to cherish and remember a ww1 hero This is an interesting point. I am sure nobody in possession of a newly issued set would offer them for sale. Though at some point such is life some may come onto the collector market. How would a collector be able to spot a new issue, how do they compare to the original issue, are they identical for example is the BWM made of silver? Edited 6 November , 2018 by trench whistle duplication of text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 7 November , 2018 Share Posted 7 November , 2018 yes Made of silver I have seen the arctic star for sale on eBay but not seen any ww1 medals yet for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 8 November , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 November , 2018 I’m not sure about WW1 Campaign Medals but WW2 Medals are delivered in individual “smart” medal boxes - a big change from the one small cardboard box used to deliver all “original” issue medals to demobilised service personnel 70 years ago. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 8 November , 2018 Share Posted 8 November , 2018 Yes the ww1 medals come in the same black boxes. Very nice indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 8 November , 2018 Admin Share Posted 8 November , 2018 How does this work for Merchant Mariners? I have a friend whose great uncle died aboard the Grimsby Trawler Cheshire when it hit a mine. He would have been entitled to BWM and Mercantile Marine medal, there is no record of them ever having been claimed - should we try to claim at least the BWM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_harvey Posted 8 November , 2018 Share Posted 8 November , 2018 Try and claim both as they are being issued by the mod medal office they will soon let you know if not entitled regards james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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