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Hi Pals,

Help wanted interpreting this Medal Roll. My relative served in the Monmouthshire Regt then 5th Bttn South Wales Borderers finally 2nd Battn South Wales Borderers. I would have expected to see his medal roll to read

Monmouthshire Regt

5th Bttn South Wales Borderers

2nd Bttn South Wales Borderers

As you can see on the attachment there are multiple entries for the 5th and 2nd Btns.

Any ideas why this would be. Any advice cheers.

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Is there anything in the wider corresponding columns against the 5th and 2nd SWB entries?

Sam

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Sorry archangel its not the Mic I'm after, thanks tho.

Sam This is the only info everything else is blank.

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Sorry, not really an explanation but it seems a lot of men had the same configuration of Monmouths then SWB with numbers close to Worthy Bull's. All with same Medal Roll ref (a page or so apart).

Albert Bull 3702 Monmth - 39835 SWB

Wilfred A Clark 3749 Monmth - 39839 SWB, same page

Do these men have similarly duplicated battalion entries?

TEW

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Sorry TEW this is the only page ive seen, only Worthy and Wilfred Clark's details. Heres Wilfreds

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Interesting. Can't say I've seen that before. Assuming there is no matching service record, I can only guess that maybe someone was very officious at the Records Office and recorded all his movements. I'm thinking that maybe he was struck off the strength of the battalion for sickness, wounds etc before returning(until the move to 2 Bn) and the clerk has gone down the Posted To list in his record and recorded every entry.

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I agree with SPOF: this shows that he lands in Theatre of War as Mon. Regt., and (possibly at the Base, since no battalion of the Mons. is given) is transferred to 5th SWB. He is then struck off strength a few times - departures owing to sickness or wounds are possibilities, maybe absence on specialist courses though these can be found in the right hand margin. I've even seen men noted as leaving to serve as officers batmen/servants away from the unit. He is subsequently transferred to 2nd SWB, with one further absence.

If sickness/wounds are possibilities, it might pay you to send for his "Pension" cards currently held by the WFA, but a bit of a gamble at £25 a pop.

Clive

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Hi SPOF

Unfortunately no service record exist for either man but at least its an idea that I can try and look for men with close numbers. Your suggestion that all entries might be movements etc was the only reason that I could think of but it seems to be a lot of movements in a short space of time.

By trawling through other Mon Regt numbers I'm pretty sure that Worthy attested sometime in Dec1915/Jan 1916 so by the time he is mobilised and trained up I would have thought he'd reached the front Summer 1916, he is reported missing during the Battle of Estaires on 11th April 1918 so thats a possible 6 moves in just under two years. Maybe something like this

Mon Reg Pte 3752 (Original posting)

5/South Wales Bord 39838 (Transferred over)

5/South Wales Bord (Off Btn for some reason)

5/South Wales Bord (Back to Btn)

5/South Wales Bord (Off Btn for some reason)

2/South Wales Bord (Posted to 2nd Btn)

2/South Wales Bord (Reported missing)

But then thinking along these lines I would have expected to see two Mon Reg entries one for posting and another for leaving so maybe they are just entries for rejoining Battalions.

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Thanks Clive, we posted the same time, would there have been Pension Cards if he had been killed in action?

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