Knotty Posted 22 June , 2021 Share Posted 22 June , 2021 And that’s how I found it, having a catch up on the 22nd😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 June , 2021 Share Posted 22 June , 2021 Just now, Knotty said: And that’s how I found it, having a catch up on the 22nd😁 You old pre-empter you. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 3 July , 2021 Share Posted 3 July , 2021 Oufti! As they say in Liege... I have some catching up to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 20 July , 2021 Share Posted 20 July , 2021 (edited) To those of a literary bent the parental origins of this junior officer might seem a surprise? Edited 21 July , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 There's a pun in there which I am resisting -- manfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, seaJane said: There's a pun in there which I am resisting -- manfully. I can see you’re getting very warm….already seaJane Edited 21 July , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 2 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: I can see you’re getting very warm As am I, but that is as a result of global warming. The face seems familiar but that usually means that I haven't a clue; I'm going to enjoy the two of you coming up with eliptical clues and look forward to the identification. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 (edited) His name was changed and in his middle early years he lived and was educated abroad. Edited 21 July , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Ha! I had him in the ready use locker fused and ready. I'll sit this one out! GH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Hi Gunner If it were a round of drinks we could go Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Ironically there is an abstract connection with “Dutch”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Forgive me F, I’m constancely playing with cryptic (well almost) clues, like Gunner I to have the ID😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 (edited) He passed out from RMA Woolwich in 1905 and saw service in India pre war with the RFA. As a result of being educated abroad (his mother chose that they go into exile) he was a completely fluent German speaker. Edited 21 July , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 2 hours ago, Knotty said: constance/constancely Is that another cryptic clue that I won't get or just a typo? I suddenly feel like when I was at school and all the cool kids knew something I didn't, and not in a good way. I'm clearly not in with the in crowd. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Hall Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 3 hours ago, Knotty said: Hi Gunner If it were a round of drinks we could go Dutch. Ohh! Cracking idea GH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 58 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Is that another cryptic clue that I won't get or just a typo? I suddenly feel like when I was at school and all the cool kids knew something I didn't, and not in a good way. I'm clearly not in with the in crowd. Pete. You and me both mucka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Gunner Hall and Knotty are both clearly enjoying the sense of superiority from being all the wiser…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Got him. Oscar Wilde's son Cyril. Thanks Sea Jane 😊👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 45 minutes ago, neverforget said: Thanks Sea Jane Nice to find that you share my warped sense of humour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 1 minute ago, seaJane said: sense of humour Can anyone suggest a website where I might download one? Top class clues and it all falls into place, although I feel a bit of a dullard. It's the heat (hopefully). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 2 minutes ago, seaJane said: Nice to find that you share my warped sense of humour Your comment clicked with me straight away Jane 😊. A lot of hard slogging still lay ahead though before I "got it in the end" (whoops). 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 2 hours ago, neverforget said: Got him. Oscar Wilde's son Cyril. Thanks Sea Jane 😊👍 Brilliant work, well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 11 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Brilliant work, well done! Cheers. Good choice of subject 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, neverforget said: Got him. Oscar Wilde's son Cyril. Thanks Sea Jane 😊👍 Well spotted in the end! “On 9 May 1915, Captain Cyril Holland of the Royal Field Artillery was killed in action when shot by a German sniper during the disastrous Battle of Aubers Ridge. He was twenty-nine years old. At the time, his brother Vivian was stationed just three miles away [also a translator and in the RFA with a wartime commission].” “Cyril Holland, born Cyril Wilde on 5 June 1885, was the elder son of Oscar and Constance Wilde. A career soldier, in December 1905 he was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Royal Field Artillery and progressed to full Lieutenancy in 1908. He was also a fully qualified interpreter and spoke flawless German.” “While serving in India in 1914, Cyril wrote to his brother to explain that, since the death of their father in 1900”: ‘my great incentive has been to wipe (the) stain away; to retrieve, if may be, by some action of mine, a name no longer honoured in the land. The more I thought of this, the more convinced I became that, first and foremost, I must be a man. … I am no wild, passionate, irresponsible hero. I live by thought, not by emotion. I ask nothing better than to end in honourable battle for my King and Country.‘ NB. Both boys had attended boarding school in Heidelberg between 1895 and 1900. Edited 21 July , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 21 July , 2021 Share Posted 21 July , 2021 Thanks👍👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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