neverforget Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 1 hour ago, Fattyowls said: Thanks for the clue. I wondered about Édouard Clunet, who defended Margaretha Zelle, but he has the disadvantage of not looking like your photograph in any I can find...... Pete. Given U.G.'s latest revelations about his c.v. I would favour him more likely to be the prosecutor, ie Pierre Bouchardon, but again the face appears not to fit. Perhaps the judge who sentenced her then. A person I have not identified as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 24 minutes ago, neverforget said: but again the face appears not to fit Story of my life....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 17 minutes ago, neverforget said: ... Perhaps the judge who sentenced her then ... Non. In that characteristically beguiling French way he was, in the Second war a la fois collaborateur et resistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 1 hour ago, neverforget said: Given U.G.'s latest revelations about his c.v. I would favour him more likely to be the prosecutor, ie Pierre Bouchardon, but again the face appears not to fit. Perhaps the judge who sentenced her then. A person I have not identified as yet. Non. Car Bouchardon n’etait pas le seul procureur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 7 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Non. Car Bouchardon n’etait pas le seul procureur. This came up on a search for "prosecutors Mata Hari trial" Nevertheless, as was later shown by André Mornet, the substitute prosecutor during Mata Hari’s trial, her being charged for spying, he said, “wasn’t worth getting worked up over.”? https://www.france24.com/en/20171015-mata-hari-spy-who-wasnt-really-spy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 26 minutes ago, neverforget said: This came up on a search for "prosecutors Mata Hari trial" Nevertheless, as was later shown by André Mornet, the substitute prosecutor during Mata Hari’s trial, her being charged for spying, he said, “wasn’t worth getting worked up over.”? https://www.france24.com/en/20171015-mata-hari-spy-who-wasnt-really-spy Yes. Mornet it was who said of proof in that trial, that he had not enough to flog a cat. Mornet later prosecuted Pierre Laval, the Head of Government of the Vichy regime. Laval was found guilty of collaboration with the enemy and shot by firing squad in 1945. But of more significance to members of this Forum, Mornet lead the prosecution of Philippe Petain in 1945. As is well known, Petain was found guilty of treason and sentenced to death, which sentence was commuted by de Gaulle to life imprisonment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 Well done. I looked at a good few Mata Hari references and didn't see his picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 13 minutes ago, jonbem said: Well done. I looked at a good few Mata Hari references and didn't see his picture. I didn't see a picture of him anywhere either. The extra clue and that piece of text gave him up. I still didn't know if it was him or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonbem Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 Try this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 16 May , 2021 Share Posted 16 May , 2021 22 hours ago, jonbem said: Try this one. Born in Yorkshire, employed in Lancashire before the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 On 16/05/2021 at 20:24, jonbem said: Born in Yorkshire, employed in Lancashire before the war Still no takers? try 94 in 257. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 32 minutes ago, jonbem said: Still no takers? try 94 in 257. Hmm. I think I may have got your drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Gotta. Eddie Latheron. His record on wiki actually states slightly differently: 2 goals for England to his credit as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Latheron Years Team Apps (Gls) –1906 Grangetown Athletic 1906–1917 Blackburn Rovers 258 (94) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 12 minutes ago, neverforget said: I think I may have got your drift I'm reminded of Mae West's classic line "I used to be Snow White but I drifted". I thought I knew the face and I'd worked out he was a footballer but I was not even close. The cunning crop of the photo took out the blue and white halves of the Blackburn shirt. Good post, and maybe one for a visit if I'm in the area. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Well on Eddie Latheron - Blackburn, Football and the First World War First World War Service Gunner 160461 Latheron joined the Royal Field Artillery (RFA) in 1916 and was subsequently posted to No. 2 Depot in Preston, Lancashire. Once there, Gnr Latheron soon found himself playing football again and he would take part in an inter-county match between Lancashire and Yorkshire-based army sides in mid-1916. On Wednesday 24 October 1917, the Liverpool Echo reported Latheron’s death, quoting a letter written by his Rovers teammate, Alex McGhie, who was also serving on the Western Front. In it, he said: A shell burst near their dugout and the splinters, passing through the opening, killed Latheron and another gunner. Latheron was happy and strong and was a tremendous worker, and if anybody has done his bit in this war it is he. We are going out of action tomorrow, and intended to have a good time. Latheron was subsequently buried at Vlamertinghe New Military Cemetery, which is located 5 Kms west of the Belgian town of Ypres. In March 1918, Latheron’s widow, Bertha, was authorised effects to the total of £4 8s 6d by the army before being given another £4 in December 1919. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Good one Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 How about this chap then? Also met a sad end, albeit whilst he was away from the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 My first response is, from the sleeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Well spotted, I thought that might be a useful addition. Wouldn't have helped me much, I am useless when it comes to uniforms/most things. I will also add that he served as an M.P. in the House of Commons, though that clue might not be as helpful as it may appear at first glance.😉 He raised a battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Grasping at photo interpretation now, cap badge possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Not too clear is it? The battalion he raised was actually a regular infantry battalion which embarked on the Western Front in February 1917. It saw extensive action in F and F until the end of the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 4 minutes ago, neverforget said: Not too clear is it? The battalion he raised was actually a regular infantry battalion which embarked on the Western Front in February 1917. It saw extensive action in F and F until the end of the war. then from British infantry brigades of the First World War - Wikipedia it leads me to narrow down to choose from these. A little more digging needed! 170th (2/1st North Lancashire) Brigade 57th (2nd West Lancashire) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade.[142][143] 171st (2/1st Liverpool) Brigade 57th (2nd West Lancashire) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade. Formed from King's Regiment (Liverpool) battalions.[142][143] 172nd (2/1st South Lancashire) Brigade 57th (2nd West Lancashire) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade.[142][143] 176th (2/1st Staffordshire) Brigade 59th (2nd North Midland) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade.[145][146] 177th (2/1st Lincoln and Leicester) Brigade 59th (2nd North Midland) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade.[145][146] 178th (2/1st Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire) Brigade 59th (2nd North Midland) February 1917 Western Front Second line Territorial brigade. Formed from Sherwood Foresters battalions.[145][146] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Ah...You might want to look a little further afield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 46 minutes ago, neverforget said: Ah...You might want to look a little further afield but still need more to narrow it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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