Knotty Posted 18 July , 2019 Share Posted 18 July , 2019 Is the top photo that of Sir Arthur Newsholme? A senior health advisor (President of the GMC) to the British government, who recommended that no action be taken against the pandemic as the munitions factories and public services needed to remain open to help with the war effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 July , 2019 Share Posted 18 July , 2019 20 minutes ago, Knotty said: Is the top photo that of Sir Arthur Newsholme? A senior health advisor (President of the GMC) to the British government, who recommended that no action be taken against the pandemic as the munitions factories and public services needed to remain open to help with the war effort. Exactly so John. The programme I watched recently was called "The flu that killed 50 million", and predominantly for the reasons you have highlighted, Newsholme had considered issuing a memorandum on flu only to shelve it on the grounds of expediency, reasoning that there were ‘national circumstances in which the major duty is to “carry on”, which undoubtedly contributed to thousands of flu deaths. The government were also compliant in censoring the extent of the pandemic, so as to avoid "national hysteria". Thank goodness for the likes of James Niven, who saved countless lives due to his endeavours, albeit mainly in Lancs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 18 July , 2019 Share Posted 18 July , 2019 Whereabouts did you find that photo Steve? I have a recording of a BBC programme shown a few years back called Spanish flu: The Forgotten Fallen, that’s where I got his name from, and Mr B helped with his I.D. of Niven and the 1918 epidemic. 1-1 draw for these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 July , 2019 Share Posted 18 July , 2019 5 minutes ago, Knotty said: Whereabouts did you find that photo Steve? I have a recording of a BBC programme shown a few years back called Spanish flu: The Forgotten Fallen, that’s where I got his name from, and Mr B helped with his I.D. of Niven and the 1918 epidemic. 1-1 draw for these two. Apologies! I forgot to post the sources for the pictures. Thanks for reminding me John. Niven's was from his wiki page, and Newsholme's was from here: https://nara.getarchive.net/media/american-red-cross-n-thru-w-sir-arthur-newsholme-of-british-delegation-chairman-eadec3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 Just out of interest, A few years ago I seem to remember that scientists were going to exhume an officers body, who had died of Spanish flu and was buried in a sealed lead coffin. The reason was to try to isolate the original strain of the flu. I never heard anything more about the project, did anything come of it ? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 25 minutes ago, bigjohn said: Just out of interest, A few years ago I seem to remember that scientists were going to exhume an officers body, who had died of Spanish flu and was buried in a sealed lead coffin. The reason was to try to isolate the original strain of the flu. I never heard anything more about the project, did anything come of it ? John I've not heard anything, but someone else might be able to enlighten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 bigjohn & nf It looks as if that was back in 2008, found this article. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/2967801/Body-of-dead-aristocrat-who-died-of-Spanish-flu-exhumed.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 1 hour ago, bigjohn said: Just out of interest, A few years ago I seem to remember that scientists were going to exhume an officers body, who had died of Spanish flu and was buried in a sealed lead coffin. The reason was to try to isolate the original strain of the flu. I never heard anything more about the project, did anything come of it ? John Well done John. He would have made a good W.I.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 1 hour ago, bigjohn said: Just out of interest, A few years ago I seem to remember that scientists were going to exhume an officers body, who had died of Spanish flu and was buried in a sealed lead coffin. The reason was to try to isolate the original strain of the flu. I never heard anything more about the project, did anything come of it ? John Apparently, Sir Mark Sykes lead-lined coffin had split sometime after burial and the scientists had to make do with inferior specimens: https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/the-spanish-flu-pandemic-and-its-impact-on-the-middle-east-1.703289 JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 Back to the job in hand WIT This Scottish officer does not appear to have been on this thread, he became a mountain of a man in his adopted country, and has a record to his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 From your clues, I deduce that he is Captain L.P.McKilamanjaro. Where do I collect my prize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 Thank you helpjpl ,Knotty and neverforget , been meaning to find out for ages, the thread brought it to mind. Shame the lead split on the coffin it could have answered a few questions. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 19 July , 2019 Share Posted 19 July , 2019 1 hour ago, voltaire60 said: From your clues, I deduce that he is Captain L.P.McKilamanjaro. Where do I collect my prize? The friend of Colonel Everest Fujiyama from the F E E F............No😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Clue for post #11934 Very handy with the use of a sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Working hard on a hunch here, which usually leads me on a wild goose-chase. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 16 hours ago, Knotty said: The friend of Colonel Everest Fujiyama from the F E E F............No😂 That's the beggar, Fawlty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Another Clue for post #11934 He got one of those VC thing's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Perhaps he is Albert Mountain VC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Unfortunately not this time UG, but a good one all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 19 minutes ago, Knotty said: Unfortunately not this time UG, but a good one all the same. Is it William Hew Clark-Kennedy? Scottish born Canadian V.C.winner. Served in the Imperial Yeomanry C.E.F. Buried in MOUNT Royal cemetery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 No not him, so close, you are on the right track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 (edited) Ah! Lt. Harcus Strachan's citation fits the bill. At a loss to see the "mountain" connection though? Edited 20 July , 2019 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Whenever I'm bored I travel abroad but ever so properly, Port out, starboard home, posh with a capital P! Who’s this then ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 1 hour ago, neverforget said: Ah! Lt. Harcus Strachan's citation fits the bill. At a loss to see the "mountain" connection though? Correct NF, it is Strachan, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harcus_Strachan, the link explains his VC action, and reference to his record of him being the oldest holder of a VC before his death. There is reference to the Lake named after him as well, but not the mountain, that can be found here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Strachan, and was named on his being awarded the VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 July , 2019 Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Thanks for clearing that up for me John. I saw the ref to the lake, but was puzzled over the mountain bit. On to Uncle George's fellow then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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