neverforget Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 4 minutes ago, seaJane said: Hmmmmm Sir James Wordie? No, but you're well on track now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 Known as "The Mad Major", he tried to get the R.F.C. to employ the use of parachutes for pilots, but as we know, they weren't having any of that. However, his stunt of leaping off a well known bridge to which I referred earlier, did at least get them approved for use by balloonists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, neverforget said: Known as "The Mad Major", he tried to get the R.F.C. to employ the use of parachutes for pilots, but as we know, they weren't having any of that. However, his stunt of leaping off a well known bridge to which I referred earlier, did at least get them approved for use by balloonists. Tommy Orde-Lees. Barking- and a German to boot. An old family acquaintance was a partner in one of the top ten law firms in the City-a tax specialist. He secured a deal for one client by telling the Revenue that his client would likely jump off Tower Bridge if the Revenue did not agree to his end of a tax settlement. Much to his surprise, the Rev. agreed- until a senior Inspector took him to one side and told him that was his allowance of tall tales that the Rev. would swallow- it was a once-in-a career ploy- and if he tried it again, the Rev. would arrange a staff outing to watch any number of his clients jump from Tower Bridge and not be swayed. Edited 20 November , 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 Tommy Orde-Lees. Barking- and a German to boot. An old family acquaintance was a partner in one of the top ten law firms in the City-a tax specialist. He secured a deal for one client by telling the Revenue that his client would likely jump off Tower Bridge if the Revenue did not agree to his end of a tax settlement. Much to his surprise, the Rev. agreed- until a senior Inspector took him to one side and told him that was his allowance of tall tales that the Rev. would swallow- it was a once-in-a career ploy- and if he tried it again, the Rev. would arrange a staff outing to watch any number of his clients jump from Tower Bridge and not be swayed. Quite correct Mr.V. Thomas Hans Orde-Lees it is. Crew member of the ill- fated Endurance, and one of the few non-Japanese to conquer Mount Fuji in winter. He was awarded the Air Force Cross in the 1919 New Year Honours list,and was appointed an OBE on 10 October. Later, however, he resigned his commission (reportedly rather than facing a Court Martial after his involvement with a parachuting course for women sponsored by the Daily Mail) and moved to Japan where he taught parachuting techniques to the Japanese Air Force. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Orde-Lees Picture taken from here: http://www.spriprints.com/thomas-orde-lees-on-deck-of-endurance/print/10520883.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 1 hour ago, neverforget said: by the Daily Mail) Served him right. Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 November , 2017 Share Posted 20 November , 2017 Well done GUEST, been trying to get him on and off all day, and in doing so came across this chap (haven’t checked to see if been on before so apologies if he has). His claim to fame was that his idea would see all his dominant gear line up and stop it happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 21 November , 2017 Share Posted 21 November , 2017 On 20/11/2017 at 22:45, Knotty said: Well done GUEST, been trying to get him on and off all day, and in doing so came across this chap (haven’t checked to see if been on before so apologies if he has). His claim to fame was that his idea would see all his dominant gear line up and stop it happening again. Could this be anyone else but Andre Maginot? As events turned out, his splendiferous tache was as good as his line of forts at stopping the Boche. ie Useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 21 November , 2017 Share Posted 21 November , 2017 Got him GUEST, be honest it was an easy one Just trying to see if I could be cryptic “dominant gear line” = André Maginot Line. Not very inspiring, I know, but it keeps things going, and don’t think I need to give any links to his life and career, he was also in WIT part 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 (edited) Seven may have been his lucky number........... but not in 1916. Who is he? Edited 23 November , 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 Can I assume he is a sportsman and that the picture is not a pastime image? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Knotty said: Can I assume he is a sportsman and that the picture is not a pastime image? Distinguished rowing career and distinction in another field. He was a friend of another person of distinction in the latter field -also a casualty- who is remembered frequently for his work on banks. Concentrate on 7 Edited 23 November , 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 Seven may have been his lucky number........... but not in 1916. Who is he? I shall sit on my hands, as I seem to remember solving this chap previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 1 hour ago, neverforget said: I shall sit on my hands, as I seem to remember solving this chap previously. Gosh! I have trouble remembering when breakfast was, come midday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 I've been told (by my nearest and most expensive) that I have what she calls a selective memory. I rarely forget a W.I.T. though. Strangely, I can also remember the most insignificant things from years ago, but am hopeless with more recent things, especially important things. I couldn't remember your chap's name, but remembered his other well known calling, and a quick search through the extensive library found him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 NF et al You should have kept quiet as it appears that you “triumphed” in August, a quick search and bingo - I won’t reveal the indentity of the gentleman. As an idea I think what we need going forward is a definitive list of people that have been named in WIT (both parts1&2) so a check can before a posting is made. What do you all think? And no I’m not volunteering(yet) as I have a project on at the moment with another pal from the forum, but there is next year if there are no other takers. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 6 minutes ago, Knotty said: You should have kept quiet as it appears that you “triumphed” in August Wondered why I was missing a month this year. Is that what happened to August for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 20 minutes ago, Knotty said: NF et al You should have kept quiet as it appears that you “triumphed” in August, a quick search and bingo - I won’t reveal the indentity of the gentleman. As an idea I think what we need going forward is a definitive list of people that have been named in WIT (both parts1&2) so a check can before a posting is made. What do you all think? And no I’m not volunteering(yet) as I have a project on at the moment with another pal from the forum, but there is next year if there are no other takers. John We the faithful patiently await the return of David, our resident statistician. Pete stated not so long ago that all was well with him, so hopefully he will return to the fold before too long. Speaking of absent friends; I see that it is a while since we have heard from our uncle George, so hopefully all is well there too. In the meantime, a suggestion might be to simply perform a search in the box at the top of the page before posting someone, to avoid repeats. (Something that I have to confess to not having always done by the way.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 Was he 7 in an Oxford or Cambridge boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 November , 2017 Share Posted 23 November , 2017 21 minutes ago, seaJane said: Was he 7 in an Oxford or Cambridge boat? Jane- absolutely no idea- My reference to 7 is purely nominal and nothing to do with oars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 oh er right Septimus someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 8 hours ago, seaJane said: oh er right Septimus someone? Yes- but not Septimus Severus- though 1916 was a bad year for him also,as he remained dead. (And it has just come as a surprise to me that CWGC records 7117 dead of the year 1916 with the name Septimus- so,alas, doesn't narrow it down very much) But Jane - as you are into library work- our man was a friend and worked in the same field as someone whose work you might normally expect to find in Wildy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 10 hours ago, seaJane said: Was he 7 in an Oxford or Cambridge boat He rowed at No.4 for Oxford and No.2 for the Great Britain Olympic team. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 Frederick Septimus Kelly, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 7 minutes ago, seaJane said: Frederick Septimus Kelly, then. Quite right. Hence the 7. A composer and oarsman. The other man was of course George Butterworth-with a deliberately misleading reference to banks- Of course, it is Banks of Green Willow (lined up as one of my choices of music when I get shoved in the Big Toaster at City of London) Butterworth was a member of the law publisher family. I put up Kelly as he was the second Aussie I have come across recently who was killed serving with British forces. The other was Captain Nowell Sievers, Essex Regiment, - a coming intellectual of a group who went to New College-which included Harold Laski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 24 November , 2017 Share Posted 24 November , 2017 12 minutes ago, voltaire60 said: Quite right. Hence the 7. A composer and oarsman. The other man was of course George Butterworth-with a deliberately misleading reference to banks- Of course, it is Banks of Green Willow (lined up as one of my choices of music when I get shoved in the Big Toaster at City of London) Butterworth was a member of the law publisher family. I put up Kelly as he was the second Aussie I have come across recently who was killed serving with British forces. The other was Captain Nowell Sievers, Essex Regiment, - a coming intellectual of a group who went to New College-which included Harold Laski Plus of course he was in very esteemed company as regards the Latin Club, and the renowned Hood Battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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