Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Michel-Joseph Maunory is an interesting man, very prominent in the chaotic period of the Marne in 1914 but was under a cloud after a failed attack in January 1915. The aggression of the French over the winter of 1914/15 is something that I know little about and is something I have on my list to look at. The British were chivied into support attacks and the failure of these played a role in the Christmas truce. Maunory was shot in the eye by a sniper in March 1915 which ended his career. On a similar theme Who(se) is this? Pete P.S. I have had an email exchange with David, all is well in Royal Berkshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 15 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Michel-Joseph Maunory is an interesting man, very prominent in the chaotic period of the Marne in 1914 but was under a cloud after a failed attack in January 1915. The aggression of the French over the winter of 1914/15 is something that I know little about and is something I have on my list to look at. The British were chivied into support attacks and the failure of these played a role in the Christmas truce. Maunory was shot in the eye by a sniper in March 1915 which ended his career. On a similar theme Who(se) is this? Pete P.S. I have had an email exchange with David, all is well in Royal Berkshire. Is it General Gouraud, commander of the French 4th arm. Delighted to hear that all is well with teacher. Was on the verge of a private enquiry myself. Well done Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Can you tell by sibling resemblance which famous brother I have cropped from this picture??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 4 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 4 November , 2017 TEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Drill Posted 4 November , 2017 Author Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Little Arnold there died as recently as 1991, living just down the road from me (St John's Street, Devizes) Thise of us who can recall events of 55 years ago will remember Arnold making comments on TV and the press about the O' Toole film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 6 minutes ago, Stoppage Drill said: TEL Well spotted Mr.Drill. 3 minutes ago, Stoppage Drill said: Little Arnold there died as recently as 1991, living just down the road from me (St John's Street, Devizes) The picture was actually taken from Arnold's Wiki page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._W._Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 4 hours ago, neverforget said: I'm hopeless at medals and uniforms etc. There are only about half a dozen or so that I recognise, and the Legion of Honour is the only French one I know. This led me think your man was Joseph Gallieni, as I seem to remember him posthumously being made Marshal of France after the war. However, after double-checking I see that this was in 1921, not 1923, and could find no record of him being wounded in 1915. Anyway, during the course of my investigation I stumbled blindly upon Maunoury, and see that it is in fact him. Well done. Not someone I was overly aware of. But is he the highest-ranking battle casualty of the war? Rather than a ga-ga Field Marshal popping his clogs in bed while the war was on. That's why I put him up. And ,as with others, posthumous Marshal. Hit by a German sniper- which shows he was near the front line. How near did Haig and Co. get? And ,blast, you recognized the Legion d'Honneur-I had hopes it might be taken for the Blue Max and lead our colleagues a merry dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Well done. Not someone I was overly aware of. But is he the highest-ranking battle casualty of the war? Rather than a ga-ga Field Marshal popping his clogs in bed while the war was on. That's why I put him up. And ,as with others, posthumous Marshal. Hit by a German sniper- which shows he was near the front line. How near did Haig and Co. get? And ,blast, you recognized the Legion d'Honneur-I had hopes it might be taken for the Blue Max and lead our colleagues a merry dance. As I said earlier the odds of me recognising a uniform or medal or any kind of insignia are about a zillion to one, so you were indeed very unlucky there. As regards the highest rank to be killed, Kitchener springs to mind who was a Field Marshall I believe, though he of course was about as far away from the front line at the time as you could get. I don't know; it's an interesting poser, which hopefully will incite input from those far more learned than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 While we await Pete's decision on post # 7467, I offer another high ranking casualty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Sorry NF I was too busy chuckling about the 4th arm gag. Not Gourard, this is closer to home. The man it was attached to was the highest ranking officer to comment on a series of semi-mythical events. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Sorry NF I was too busy chuckling about the 4th arm gag. Not Gourard, this is closer to home. The man it was attached to was the highest ranking officer to comment on a series of semi-mythical events. Pete. So, closer to home would rule out Alphonse Juin as well then? Had more than a hand in breaking the Gustav Line.....O.k I'll get my coat. P.S. Loved your idea about the Great War Forum on tour. Belting idea! Edited 4 November , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 10 minutes ago, neverforget said: So, closer to home would rule out Alphonse Juin as well then? Had more than a hand in breaking the Gustav Line.....O.k I'll get my coat. P.S. Loved your idea about the Great War Forum on tour. Belting idea! Not Juin. The owner lost something other than his arm sadly. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Hi Pete Would it be the left hand prosthetic of Lieutenant-General Sir Walter Congreve VC of The Rifle Brigade, who was the only corps commander wounded in WW1. He also lost his son Billy also a VC winner at the Somme. Despite his bravery and losing his hand at Vimy in 1917 he was dismissed in 1918 during the German Offensive and was shunned by his old roommate, namely Haig. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 That would be absolutely correct John, with a bit of information that I didn't know too. Walter Congreve was also the highest ranking officer to mention football being played during the Christmas truce of 1914. He heard rumours of a game being played further up the line, and considered going out into no man's land himself but thought better of it. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 Nf Assuming two things, firstly he is German, and secondly, that your officer is above the rank of Generalmajor, then I need to go through 52 Generalleutant,19 General Der Infanteier, 3 Generaloberst and a couple of Generalfeldmarschall, together with pictures if possible. In the words of a well known actor......I’ll be back PS what’s the GWF on tour about? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 5 minutes ago, Knotty said: Nf Assuming two things, firstly he is German, and secondly, that your officer is above the rank of Generalmajor, then I need to go through 52 Generalleutant,19 General Der Infanteier, 3 Generaloberst and a couple of Generalfeldmarschall, together with pictures if possible. In the words of a well known actor......I’ll be back PS what’s the GWF on tour about? John Hi John. All your assumptions are correct. I'll spare you the 52 lesser mortals that you mention. My GWF on tour comment was in response to our good friend Pete's remark here: Could this be the start of something magical????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 4 minutes ago, Knotty said: PS what’s the GWF on tour about? NF has just rendered this post superlflo, obsol, meaningle pointl out of date. I was being mostly tongue in cheek (as usual) but I think we all know each other well enough in cyberspace to risk meeting up and wandering the vasty fields of France, especially with someone like Jim as the guide. Pete. P.s 6 minutes ago, neverforget said: Could this be the start of something magical???? I wouldn't got that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 (edited) Post 7475 - Generalfeldmarshall Karl von Bulow, commander of the German Second Army in 1914? Ron Edited 4 November , 2017 by Ron Clifton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 12 minutes ago, Ron Clifton said: Post 7475 - Generalfeldmarshall Karl von Bulow, commander of the German Second Army in 1914? Ron Close Ron, but not close enough I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 55 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: NF has just rendered this post superlflo, obsol, meaningle pointl out of date. I was being mostly tongue in cheek (as usual) but I think we all know each other well enough in cyberspace to risk meeting up and wandering the vasty fields of France, especially with someone like Jim as the guide. Pete. P.s I wouldn't got that far. Actually mate, judging by your posts and photos and wonderful anecdotes, I reckon you'd make a mighty fine guide yourself. Just saying....... 1 hour ago, Ron Clifton said: Post 7475 - Generalfeldmarshall Karl von Bulow, commander of the German Second Army in 1914? Ron My man was actually murdered/assassinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 22 minutes ago, neverforget said: Actually mate, judging by your posts and photos and wonderful anecdotes, I reckon you'd make a mighty fine guide yourself. Just saying....... My man was actually murdered/assassinated. NF, would we be talking about an assassination that took place in part of the Ottoman Empire? As for tour guiding it's much much harder than it appears. I once took some mates to the battlefields and there was a lot of unintentional comedy, Mill Road up to Thiepval was a particular low point. It's about knowing your facts and just the bare minimum of information to paint the scene. I can look over say Mash valley from Oviliers Millitary cemetery and can't stop myself talking about the permafrost origins of dry valleys in chalk country and then telling the story of how one of the occupants of the cemetery inspired the Kop at St Andrews' favourite song. And that is before describing the Tyneside Irish battalions coming over the hill into the teeth of the German machine guns firing from a mile away to die before even reaching their own front line on 1st July. You need a proper guide like Jim, or Chris Baker who I know gets it absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 15 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: NF, would we be talking about an assassination that took place in part of the Ottoman Empire? Sorry for the delay, I had to check, but yes you're firmly on his trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 20 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: It's about knowing your facts and just the bare minimum of information to paint the scene. I can look over say Mash valley from Oviliers Millitary cemetery and can't stop myself talking about the permafrost origins of dry valleys in chalk country and then telling the story of how one of the occupants of the cemetery inspired the Kop at St Andrews' favourite song. And that is before describing the Tyneside Irish battalions coming over the hill into the teeth of the German machine guns firing from a mile away to die before even reaching their own front line on 1st July. See what I mean? Your words just took me on a guided tour. Brilliant mate. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 A good guide would just state the bare minimum and let the picture tell the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 4 November , 2017 Share Posted 4 November , 2017 14 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: A good guide would just state the bare minimum and let the picture tell the story. Great picture Pete. I take it that this is Lauder jnr's eternal view then? The gentle lies of the land really bring one's imagination into play. Their gentleness belying the horrors that occurred within. A picture paints a thousand words, but can also hide as many truths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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