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JOSEPH MOSSOP ALIAS JAMES HENDERSON RNR


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I cannot for the life of me find the following on cwgc

even with Geoffs search engine !

UK, Royal Navy and Royal Marine War Graves Roll, 1914-1919

Name: James Henderson

Rank: Stoker

Birth Date: 12 Sep 1885

Birth Place: Hartlepool

Branch of Service: Royal Naval Reserve

Cause of Death: Killed or died as a direct result of enemy action

Official Number Port Division: 1335 S. (Ch)

Death Date: 31 May 1916

Location of Grave: Not recorded

Name and Address of Cemetery: Body Not Recovered For Burial

Relatives Notified and Address: Mother: Eliza, 157 Stockton St, Middlesboro

Served and went down on HMS Indefatigable

can anybody find him

service number is correct

Regards Ray

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Does seem odd that there is no other mention. Coincidentally I read your post with a copy of Cross of Sacrifice at hand then found the CWGC Page.

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Curiously he is on the local war memorial as Joseph Mossop

so James may not have been his forename either

the chase continues

regards Ray

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Probably not relevant, but, you never know?

Derby Daily Telegraph - Monday 30 October 1916
" On the Way Home-Joseph Mossop was charged with being an absentee from the Durham Light Infantry. PC Bryan said prisoner was detained at the Midland Station for travelling without paying his fare. He told witness he wanted to get home, as his wife had given up his child to a strange woman-Committed to await an escort."
Mike
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Mike I don't think its relevant thanks for the look up anyway

James /Joseph enrolled in the Navy in 1909 serving almost constantly

Horatio 2 Thanks for confirmation of his forename

Having searched the census's for Mossop /Henderson no positive match

I am thinking at this point in time that his mother may have married more than once

making a positive id of his parentage difficult

several changes of address on service docs

1909 18 Anderson Street Stockton

25/4/11 13 Hopkins Street Middlesbrough

13/11/12 13 Garbutt Street Stockton

31/12/13 157 Stockton Street Middlesbrough

Just one of many local lads who perished during the Battle of Jutland

more to research must move on

Regards Ray

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As I don't like loose ends had another go at identifying him

Here we are

JOSEPH MOSSOP ALIAS JAMES HENDERSON

Joseph Mossop was born on the 12th July 1881 in Distington Whithaven Cumberland

He was the twin brother of Maxwell James Mossop

Their parents were Joseph and Elizabeth Mossop (nee Dempsey)

Maxwell James Mossop enrolled into the Royal Navy (S370) on 5th Feb 1908

Whilst residing at 18 Anderson Street Stockton on Tees

serving until 30/12/1912

Joseph Mossop enrolled into the Royal Navy (S1335) using the alias James Henderson on the 10th September 1909, Whilst residing at 18 Anderson Street Stockton on Tees

giving an incorrect date of birth 12/09/1895 and his birth place incorrectly as Hartlepool

He served continually with The Royal Navy until he lost his life during the battle of Jutland whilst serving aboard HMS Indefatigable on the 31st May1916

The twins mother born Elizabeth Dempsey

First married Joseph Mossop she then married Henry Smith and then married William Lockhart

Having a total of 17 children in all 12 of whom survived

Joseph and his twin brother Maxwell can be found on the 1901 census aged 19 residing with their mother, stepfather William Lockhart and various siblings at 20 Woodhouse Terrace Middlesbrough both employed as steelworks labourers

regards Ray

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To be strictly accurate, Joseph and Maxwell enrolled in the Royal Naval Reserve as a stokers (1335.S and 370.S). They must have followed some other maritime employment 1909 to 1914 when they would have been mobilised.

Maxwell re-enrolled in the RNR for a second period as 2585.T before the war.

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Hi Horatio 2

Joseph appears to have served on various ships prior to ww1

I would appreciate your interpretation of the following documents

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A bit faint but all I can do

regards Ray

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Usual rubbish Kew download but it seems to show that he was employed before mobilisation "Firing at Bonfieldss (?) Ironworks" and then as a fireman in the Mercantile Marine on various ships. During this time he had a couple of one month periods of training with the RN in HMS COMMONWEALTH (1912) and FORMIDABLE (1914).

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Horatio 2

Thanks for looking at the documents and your reply

The employment Joseph was engaged in would have been at Bousefield Ironworks ,which closed down many years ago located on the outskirts of Stockton on Tees

Regards Ray

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  • 2 years later...

Ray,

When you quote details such as in your original post, it would help everyone if you also quoted your source.  It looks a bit like ADM 242 to me but it always helps to know what you have looked at already if you want people to look further.

For what it is worth, I concur that he is missing from CWGC.

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Stuart  he did: UK, Royal Navy and Royal Marine War Graves Roll, 1914-1919

 

To anyone used to searching Ancestry - no more is needed.

 

Looks like a case for In From the Cold. Well spotted Ray.

 

Keith

 

 

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Oh - that really needed some punctuation/better typesetting.  I have only recently started using "Ancestry" but have realised that that IS their name for ADM 242.  Henderson would appear in ADM 242/14 or ADM 242/15.  I wonder if he is in both.

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