temptage Posted 24 June , 2014 Share Posted 24 June , 2014 I have recently found another 'local' casualty who is buried in WILLOWS (ST. JOHN'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY, midway between Blackpool and Preston. If anyone is able to get a photo from me, his details are as follows: Private William Tinsley - south boundary Please note, this is the Cemetery opposite the Churchyard. Many thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BereniceUK Posted 24 June , 2014 Share Posted 24 June , 2014 Is it this one at Kirkham? The Willows is part of the address if it is. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Kirkham/StJohnTheEvangelist.shtml I can get there a week on Saturday, no problem. My shift rota means I only have next Sunday off before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 24 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 24 June , 2014 Thats the one Berenice. As and when will be fine. No rush. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 24 June , 2014 Share Posted 24 June , 2014 I hope to be in Kirkham later this week, if I can will do & advise. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 25 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 25 June , 2014 Thanks Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 Herewith , not a very good tablet, well worn, one of two (Manchester reg't. other one, odd lonely location) Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 In case anyone is interested in the Manchester soldier, attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 26 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 26 June , 2014 Thanks Colin. Would you be able to email me the original photo as it always shrinks when adding it on here. I will PM you my email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 Colin, The Michael Judge grave seems to be missing from https://www.flickr.com/photos/manchester-regiment/sets/?&page=2 Please may I offer it to the forum? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 26 June , 2014 Share Posted 26 June , 2014 By all means Tim, these two graves at Kirkham are very remote & would appear to be untended, I will visit them again. Regards. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 26 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 26 June , 2014 Tim, I have all the Manchester's in Grimsby and Cleethorpes Cemeteries, 5 in Grimsby and 30 in Cleethorpes (including 25 in a mass grave) I noticed neither of the Cemeteries are mentioned in the list on Flickr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 27 June , 2014 Share Posted 27 June , 2014 Thanks to boysoldier Yes please temptage. The mass grave relates to men killed in the chapel they were using as a billet that was hit during a zeppelin raid. http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=7407.msg48324#msg48324 Hope you will be able to read this thread, but not sure. I will send my email to you by PM. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 Tim, Do you have any details of Pte. Judge, I still can't get on to CWGC, That raid where the Manchesters lost many men was unknown to me, the site was very interesting . Cheers. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 The interesting part of this post is that it all runs back to Cleethorpes! Michael served with the 3rd Battalion at Cleethorpes.His Service Record is also online showing enlistment in 11th (K1 Service) Bttn 9641 (330713) on 29/9/14 aged 21. Michael was 5'11" and previously employed as a moulder. He went to Med Expeditionary Force on 6/7/15, landing 6/8/15 and was wounded with a Gun Shot Wound to the back (other notes suggest knee & Shin) in Gallipoli before Hospital treatment in Alexandria 13/8/15. He returned Home on 24/9/15 when he was treated in a Bristol Hospital until 26/11/15. Following convalescence he posted to 3rd Bttn for Home Service on 9/12/15 before the attachment to the Labour Corps on 30/6/17. He died in a Grimsby Hospital at 1pm on 7/10/17. The Medical notes are difficult to interpret - dyspenaic - but there seems to have been breathing issues. Remembered here JUDGE, MICHEAL Rank: Private Service No: 9641 Date of Death: 07/10/1917 Age: 29 Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment 3rd Bn. transf. to (330173) 506th Home Service Employment Coy. Labour Corps Grave Reference South boundary. Cemetery WILLOWS (ST. JOHN'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY Additional Information:Son of Thomas Judge, of 112, Marsden St., Kirkham, Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 Many thanks Tim, It really is a strange coincidence regarding Pte. Judge. Was it normal for a "home" death to be re.located to place of residence ? Regards. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 Hi Colin, I've seen examples where men were buried by their families in their home town and then the Cleethorpes (keeps coming back) graves of the Manchester men confirm that many men were buried close to the place they died. I don't know what made the difference, but speculate families would have to pay to bring soldiers home and this option may not have been available for the disasters like the Zeppelin raid. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 28 June , 2014 Share Posted 28 June , 2014 Many thanks Tim for clarification, we have Pte. Judge resolved . Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantamforgot Posted 3 July , 2014 Share Posted 3 July , 2014 Another from Kirkham. Pte. Livingstone York & Lancs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldrivertwo Posted 20 August , 2020 Share Posted 20 August , 2020 Good Morning Forgive the intrusion as this is slightly off topic. I have recently been researching my family history and I believe that Private William Tinsley was my late grandmothers first husband and father of my mothers two eldest siblings. Therefore I was wondering if you know of any connection that Private Tinsley has with Grimsby, ( you refer to him as another 'local' casualty.), as we are trying to find a reason for my grandmother, (born in Battersea), being in Grimsby where she remarried and remained for the rest of her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chesterboy Posted 20 August , 2020 Share Posted 20 August , 2020 5 hours ago, Chesterboy said: Page 56. Soldiers died in the Great War 1914 - 1919 Part 44, The Prince of Wales’s Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 21 August , 2020 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2020 (edited) I have him as a local because he is named on the Grimsby St James Kalender, the local Parish Church Book of Remembrance. A lot of men and their families from all over the country came to Grimsby for the fishing trade. Huge numbers employed before WW1. Also interesting to note that even though there are several records online stating he was born in Grimsby, there is no birth record for a William Tinsley in or around the Grimsby area between 1860 and 1900 Edited 21 August , 2020 by temptage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldrivertwo Posted 21 August , 2020 Share Posted 21 August , 2020 Temptage Thank you so much. We believe he was born in Preston to John and Mary Tinsley. His parents were living in Kirkham at the time of his death. Again thank you CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldrivertwo Posted 21 August , 2020 Share Posted 21 August , 2020 Chesterboy Many thanks, thats fantastic. If I may impose upon you again could you please explain what the Barnsley reference means has we can place my Grandmother in Barnsley at the time of the 1911 census. Most appreciated CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 21 August , 2020 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2020 The 'e.' before Grimsby is where he enrolled. It could be that Barnsley had had its quota filled for signing up so was sent to Grimsby to enrol. As previously mentioned, a very large percentage of men living in or from Grimsby either signed up or were already serving in the fishing fleet, many of which went on to serve on the armed trawlers or minesweepers, leaving many available numbers for soldiers to enrol. Grimsby had large numbers enrolling from Durham, Walsall, Nottingham and across Yorkshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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